Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Its Shari'ah, Stupid #22

We continue exploration of modern Fiqh in this twenty-second episode.

Another contemporary jihad Evangelist is Yusuf al-Qaradawi (b. 1926), a member of the Muslim Brothers (the world's first terrorist organization), and leader of the European Council for Fatwa and Research. Al-Qaradawi is counted as one of the most influential Muslim authorities. He has defended suicide bombings against Israelis, because he believes that there are no Israeli civilians, as all Israelis do military service, and therefore counted as soldiers. In the following interview, he advocated jihad to fight Israel. He does this by referring to Muhammad as a role model for today's jihadists.

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa ... ID=SP24601

”On the other hand, Allah wanted Muhammad’s life to be a model. […] Similarly, Allah has also made the prophet Muhammad into an epitome for religious warriors [Mujahideen] since he ordered Muhammed to fight for religion […]

”The youth who wish to hurry to establish an Islamic state with an Islamic rule seek clashes with the existing regimes in the Arab states despite the fact that they don’t have sufficient strength; they don’t have military strength and not even the mental strength to establish an Islamic rule.” […]

”On the other hand, there are some things that cannot wait; for instance, when the land of the Muslims is being invaded. When that happens, we do not say ’let’s wait, we will surrender to them and only then [we shall see]’ […] no! In that case, Islam requires that the people of the invaded land will fight the invaders […] and following them, their neighbors. And if this is not enough, all the Muslims [must enlist for this purpose]. Hence, a problem like the current Intifada and the Palestinian problem is one that cannot wait; the nation must fight and defend itself and not allow the invader to ruin the land […]

Sheik Al-Qaradhawi argued that there are two types of Jihad: ”A Jihad which you seek, and a Jihad in which you repulse an attack." In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way. The repulsing Jihad takes place when your land is being invaded and conquered […] [in that case you must] repulse [the invader] to the best of your ability; if you kill him he will end up in hell, and if he kills you, you become a martyr [Shahid] […]

Sheik Al-Qaradhawi – who throughout his recent appearances has declared that Palestinian suicide attacks are considered ”self-sacrifice” and not suicide, and thus are permitted and even welcome from a religious standpoint – was again asked about this issue. He argued that the person who commits that act ”is not a suicide [bomber]. He kills the enemy while taking self-risk, similarly to what Muslims did in the past […] He wants to scare his enemies, and the religious authorities have permitted this. They said that if he causes the enemy both sorrow and fear of Muslims […] he is permitted to risk himself and even get killed.”

  • They said that if he causes the enemy both sorrow and fear of Muslims […] he is permitted to risk himself and even get killed.”
Do you understand this saying? Self sacrifice is permitted if it results in death, grief & terror suffered by the victims. Where in Hell does a "holy man" obtain such ideas? If our leaders and academicians did not have their brains burried in their butts they might be able to search Islam's canon and discover the source. Because my brain is at the correct end of my spinal column, I am able to investigate and report the source to you. I do this because I want you to know, to be angered, to inform others, organize, and disrespectfully demand effective action to defend our way of life from Islam's invasion, subversion and demographic conquest.

Who are the Shaheed, the honored martyrs? Those who fought to the death. The hadith are sunnah: models to be emulated.
These expressions should be clues for you to help understand what the Sheikh's blood thirsty opinion is derived from.
  • Indignity is put over them
  • destruction is put over them
  • We shall cast terror
  • afflict them with a humiliating torment
  • I will cast terror
  • punish them severely
  • Allâh will punish them by your hands and disgrace them
  • Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them
  • fought until he was killed
I close this post with a negative examplar.
9:120. It was not becoming of the people of Al-Madinah and the bedouins of the neighbourhood to remain behind Allâh's Messenger (Muhammad when fighting in Allâh's Cause) and (it was not becoming of them) to prefer their own lives to his life. That is because they suffer neither thirst nor fatigue, nor hunger in the Cause of Allâh, nor they take any step to raise the anger of disbelievers nor inflict any injury upon an enemy but is written to their credit as a deed of righteousness. Surely, Allâh wastes not the reward of the Muhsinûn
Muslims get credit for righteous deeds by:
  • any step to raise the anger of disbelievers
  • inflicting any injury upon disbelievers.
Got a clue yet? If not, we know where your head is.


saqib09 said...

I think you have made an effort to prove what you wanted to prove. But I think that the anty validity of your arguement should be rejected even if you are correct, simply because this is written with pure anger. I dont know anything about you, but I can tell that you read the Quran to find justification of your point. Please, I'm asking you, not as a Muslim person but as a human being, if you read the Quran or hadis or Lord of the Rings, I dont care...do your research with an open mind. I'm sure you ARE an open minded person. And I totally understand why you are angry. I dont even think you are completely wrong. Just dont let anger overwhelm your good sense.


saqib09 said...

*any validity

PackSmack said...


Personally, I think what Ben (the author of that post) is trying to communicate is truth, not necessarily emotion. Truth stands regardless of one's feelings about or toward it.

And if what he is saying is true, as you intimated it might be, the implications are extremely dangerous to the world and the propositions he laid down might best be thought of in terms of how to expose it as a wicked lie, a deception of the ages, don't you think?

Ema Nymton said...



As Ali Ben Ali Mohammad (your co-author of this blog) said, "Muslims get credit for righteous deeds by:

* any step to raise the anger of disbelievers"

You are being warned.

Please note Ali Ben Ali Mohammad does everything to avoid answering questions of his being a follower of Islam.


PackSmack said...

Ema, Exactly what am I being 'warned' of? Aren't you supposed to invite me into Islam before you come over and behead me, or something?

As for Ben, like I said, I have known Ben for awhile. Did you ever see one of his sites, Crusader's Armory? I'll try to make a link here using html:

If you haven't used that site to find out the truth of Islam, you are truly a green rookie; everyone knows about that site, it is a staple.

But, hey, you warned me. Glad to know that you've got my back [with that knife].

PackSmack said...

Well, that link didn't work.

So you will have to copy and paste it for yourself:


saqib09 said...


thanks for your comment. And thanks for you reply to Ema and that link. I didn't know this guy is a, for the lack of a better word, 'professional' Islam basher. I wouldn't have bothered commenting if i had knew that. Good luck to whoever, read those articles.

Ben said...

Early in the summer of '01, I obtained internet access and, out of curiosity, began lurking on Netscape's Mideast Tension msg. board. I found links there through which I learned a great deal. I book marked sources and took notes.

One bright Tuesday morning, I was chatting with my boss on YM and listening to the radio when I heard that an aircraft had flown into the WTC. I assumed that it was a general aviation accident until my boss saw it on t.v. and relayed the truth. I cursed Islam at the top of my lungs, continuously shouting GOD DAMN ISLAM!!!! for about an hour, until my throat was too sore to continue. Nearly 3000 innocent people died in those attacks, thousands were orphaned and thousands more injured.

We were on the crux of a business deal that would have made it for us, and it vaporized. It blew a year and a half of my work all to Hell. If you think I ain't pissed off, if you think I ain't full of hatred, if you think I ain't Goddamn outraged, then you are a perfect idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Almighty Jehovah, I claim and seize the right to life, to live free and unmolested without attack or threat of attack.

Our Declaration of Independence & Constitution declare that right and the rights dependent on it, and I stand on them with feet firmly planted and I will not be moved!!!

With every breath, with my very life and being I condemn and curse every son of Satan who arrogantly asserts a demonic mandate to kill, enslave, rape and plunder.

That is exactly what Islam is, what Moe preached and practiced; what his four rightly guided Caliphs emulated. Death & damnation be upon Allah, and his Messenger, and their slaves & sympathizers!!!

I lift the lid and let the world see the shit which floats on the surface of Islam. I document every lump of turd, seething with worms.

I link those lumps of turds to their sources, the Unholy Qur'an, Sunnah & Shari'ah so that readers can easily verify the accuracy & veracity of everything I post. Nobody has yet proved me wrong.

They dance, prance, slither & emote, but they can not find any relevant, verifiable facts to prove me wrong.

Neither argumentum adhomimem, argumtum tu quoque nor argumentum ad numerum cut the mustard against Allah's clear commands, Ibn Kathir's clear exegeses, Moe's confirming statements & excellent example, much less Islamic law.

Those documents form a congruent pattern of matching statements, actions & jurisprudence which prove beyond any possible doubt that Islam is a mercenary & martial murder cult, not a legitimate religion.

Many of my blog posts are formulated with SEO tactics which make them easy to find with search engines. They have been read by the United States Department of State, French Foreign Ministry, Saudi Ministry of Information, United Nations, various European government agencies, and numerous individuals from all over the world.

One of the blogs I contribute to had more than one million discrete visitors last year. My posts contributed significantly to its rapid growth.

Nay more! I created a Windows utility for making hyperlinks to quotes from Islam's canon of scripture & tradition. It is being used by two of the top anti-Islamic writers.

By God, we will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated. We will be heard, and our message will spread.

Truth will prevail!!!

saqib09 said...

the 9/11 attack is a sad horrible event and Allah absolutely prohibits attack on innocent people. The Prophet (s) before every war and conflict instructed his companions to not harm any woman and children and anyone who are not involved in direct conflict. He ordered not to destroy or harm in anyway any property that belong to non muslims. That is history and by basic Islamic law that is the way every Muslim should live. This is historical facts that you can not deny and that alone dismisses any distorted interpretation of Islamic texts you can come up with. You are not presenting any accepted method of interpretation to start with. Why should anyone listen to you?

PackSmack said...


I wouldn't call Ben a 'professional Islam basher;' rather, one who understands the true nature of Islam far better than almost every other American, and certainly better than any European, one who was impacted by Islam's acts of war upon this country on 911 and will never forget, and one who perceives the threat to the world that Islam presents today and has always presented.

'Bashing' is a pretty intolerant statement, wouldn't you say? And isn't Islam 'the religion of peace?

Ema Nymton said...



"'Bashing' is a pretty intolerant statement, wouldn't you say? " Oh who now has become all 'mr sensitivity?' Not you? You who has called for the mass killings of unarmed and defenseless people, now are trying to come across as caring?! Oh paleese.

saqib69 - your points are valid but of no consequence. PackSmack and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad are truly delusional and deranged haters. (They have the nerve to call themselves of Christians all the while turning their backs on the messages and commandments of Jesus Christ.)

The targets of their impenitent rage are defenseless and unarmed followers of Islam. They have convinced themselves that by pointing to selective writings in the Koran, they can call for the killings of the vast majority of peace-loving people who call themselves Muslims. (When confronted with the simple truth (facts) that every incident of ungodly behavior they can point to, can be found to have been committed by Jews and Christians, these two works of wonder simply ignore the facts.)

Ali Ben Ali Mohammad -

"GOD DAMN ISLAM!!!"? Shouldn't you have shrilly screamed, “Damn Boeing.” The aircraft, after all, that crashed were built by Boeing.

"“pissed off, if you think I ain't full of hatred, if you think I ain't Goddamn outraged”" and you are totally deranged. Your call to kill unarmed and defenseless people to assuage your misdirected anger is tragic.

You “arrogantly asserts a demonic mandate to kill” unarmed and defenseless people in response to an act in which the people of Islam had no involvement. (No more involvement than Christians had in the bombing in April 1995 of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma.)

"I lift the lid and let the world see the shit which floats on the surface of Islam. I document every lump of turd, seething with worms."

You spend a lot of time in the sewer. Is there any wonder why you find only shit? Stay in the gutter where you belong, scum.

"They dance, prance, slither & emote, but they can not find any relevant, verifiable facts to prove me wrong. "

Which does not have any bearing on anything. You can hate all you want. You are wrong to call for the killings of unarmed and defenseless people.

Given how literally you take the written word of Allah in the Qur'an, it is clear you are a true follower of Islam.

Which other religious teachings do you follow? Are you as literal with the written words of the Torah? (You know. Like the ones that command followers to kill people who live in the land of milk and honey.)

Should people read and take literally the words in the books of the 'Old Testament'? (You know. Like the order to stone those who try to not follow the laws of Moses.)

Lets cut the crap and drill down to the nitty gritty.

Every deed you claim followers of Islam have committed, has been documented to have been committed by Jews and Christians first.


PackSmack said...

Ben - Fantastic comments. Thanks for sharing.

Ema - You're feeling inspired today. I suppose that you are hoping to impress Mr. Saqib09, in the hopes of making a love connection, huh? Do you think saqib09 knows that you are gay? (By your own admission).

As for your statement, 'You are wrong to call for the killings of unarmed and defenseless people,' I am wondering, if you say that this is wrong, then was it similarly wrong for Mohammed to command his followers to engage in jihad perpetually? For the command is to kill all unbelievers, women, children, unarmed, etc. Where's your outrage at that? Or are you hypocritical about SOME things?

saqib09 said...


Thanks.I have pretty much figured out what kind of people Ben and Packmack are and what their true agenda is.


Any person (gay or straight) is better than those who advocate hatred. Do all the hating you want, Muslims around the world will continue to love their neighbours (yes, that includes Israel), give charity to the poor, treat all human equal and work against those who kill innocent people.

Ben said...

saqib, ya stuck yer tongue out & stepped on it. Too bad yer wearing hob nailed boots.

Muslims love their neighbors. In a pig's ass they do, unless their neighbors happen to be fellow Muslims!

I refer you directly to At-Taubah 123: O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).

Muslims give charity to the poor, damn well, as long as they are fellow Muslims. But not if their poor neighbors are Kuffar! I refer you to Umdat as-Salik Book H8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat to a non-Muslim, or to someone whom one is obliged to support (def: m12.1), such as a wife or family member.

Muslims treat all people as equal: in a pig's ass they do! Women are chattel: fields to be plowed as per Al-Baqarah 223: Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, ...

Men have permission to beat their wives as per An-Nisa 34. And women are deemed deficient in intelligence & religion, as per Bukhari 1.6.301 : "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." .

Then there is the little matter of Dhimmis. Muslims are commanded not to greet them first and to shove them into the ditch when they meet on the road. Abu Dawud 41.5186: AbuHurayrah reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not salute them (Jews and Christians) first, and when you meet them on the road, force them to go to the narrowest part of it.

It was not without good reason that Moe warned his companions not to carry the Koran into Dar al-Harb!

PackSmack said...

Ouch! Saqib, Ben just stold your lunch and ate it, then handed you your butt.

That's gotta hurt!

Ben said...

Ema, yer venom stinks and shines in the moonlight like a dead fish on the riverbank.

The aircraft that crashed into the towers were piloted by SandMaggots who deliberately took them off course and into the towers. This they did in obedience to Allah's command to wage war against Kuffar and in emulation of Moe's excellent companions who fought to the death.

We heard their voices on the cockpit voice recorders. They said Allahu Akbar while slitting the throats of the flight crew.

Usama bragged about it on video tape, we have seen his face and heard his voice speaking with pride of the magnificent 19, praising them as shaheed.

Selective writings? In a pig's ass! Islamic Goddamn Law!!! Umdat as-Salik!!! The Caliph makes war upon Jews...The Caliph fights all other peoples... . That law is founded on what Allah said and Moe did. Allah said "fight them..."; "fight those who...". Three books of Bukhari's Sahih collection are devoted to the battles Moe waged, they are Jihad, Khumus & Expedition.

Islamic law requires a minimum of one military attack against Kuffar in every year, with rulings to that effect by Al-Shafi'i, Al-Ghazali and others. Refer to Umdat as-Salik O9.1 "upon the Muslims every year".

You are full of it, it is over ripe, and it stinks. The truth is on the face of the texts, clear and indisputable. It is also clear on the face of history, from Khairbar Oaasis to Hindu Kush to Beslan, a 1400 year trail of merciless Barbarism.

saqib09 said...

Whoever paying you guys couldn't they have picked someone who do not have to deal with their puberty?

PackSmack said...

Saqib, that's what Mohammed must have thought after he married that little girl when she was, what, 6? Maybe 9?

Ben said...

This is neither a business nor a profession, saqib; it is a labor of love. Nobody has paid me any sum of money or in kind material nor do I sell advertising on any of my sites.

This is all about the preservation of our lives & liberties; the maintenance of our form of government & economic system free from terrorism, conquest & demographic subversion.

It must be extremely distressing to find yourself in a debate with neither facts nor logic to support your assertion when your opponent has the facts from the testimony of your own founder and his demon.

Allah's word is law, and that which is codified in Reliance of the Traveller matches up with that which is revealed in the Koran. Both of them match up with what Moe's companions said that they saw him do and heard him say outside of the Mosque, when he was not revealing Allah's word.

Argumentum ad hominem does not cut the mustard. Neither does argumentum Tu quoque. Then there's Tim McVey, who was a lapsed Catholic, outside the communion; whose partner went to the Philippines to consult with Ramsy Yussef in order to learn how to make their bombs work. Your attempted defenses are pathetic.

Ema Nymton said...


"It must be extremely distressing to find yourself in a debate with neither facts nor logic to support your assertion when your opponent has the facts from the testimony of your own founder and his demon."

Defense? None needed. You do not make any 'points' using these facts. History, maybe.

Allah's word is law, and that which is codified in Reliance of the Traveller matches up with that which is revealed in the Koran."

Oh wow.

Is there any difference between commandments in Leviticus and Deuteronomy? For every distorted 'fact' you point to can be found and used to discredit you and your bible.

What is the difference between a Muslim calling for the killing of non-Muslims and your calling for the killing of Muslims????