Tuesday, February 3, 2009

Obamination: Spewing Feces

In his first televised interview since being inaugerated, President Barack Hussein Obama had some things to tell Al Arabiya.
"My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy,"

  • My job to the Muslim world
Mr. President, to what ever extent you are employed by the Muslim world you are a traitor and must be impeached & tried. Any & every hint of any sort of duty to anyone other than the citizens of the United States of America, collectively and its Constitution in particular is both false and treacherous.
  • the Americans are not your enemy
Since when does the President of the United States define the enemies list of Islam? Are you the Caliph; the Mahdi? According to Allah, all non-Muslims are enemies to be fought until they become Muslim or are subjugated and make annual extortion payments. Between 1787 and 1815, Islam was making war against the United States, attacking our shipping, killing and enslaving the crews and seizing cargo. When asked for an explanation, this was the reply.
[the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War]
In any case, Islam is our enemy, having declared and prosecuted war upon us. We need to reciprocate.


“[W]e are ready to initiated a new partnership based on mutual respect and mutual interest,”
  • partnership
Impossible! Muslims are not allowed to take Kuffar as partners, that is explicitly forbidden.
3:118. O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand
  • mutual respect
Muslims do not respect Kuffar! They regard us as rebels against Allah. They are mandated to make perpetual war against us [9:29] and our blood and property are not sacred to them until we become Muslims.[Bukhari 1.8.387].
  • mutual interest
Our interests are life, liberty, prosperity peace & security. Islam's interest is conquering the entire world for Allah, to fulfill his demonic mandate. We have no mutual interest.
“I think it is possible for us to see a Palestinian state – I’m not going to put a time frame on it – that is contiguous,”
Palestine is Israel. Jews are Palestinians. The Muslims, Arabs & mixed breeds illegally occupying Gaza and the West Bank are Falestinians, not Palestinians. The Levant is Jewish homeland, not Muslim Arab homeland. Muslim history in the Levant begins with Caliph Umar's conquest of 638. There is no reason for a Falestinian state, the Kingdom of Jordan would serve that purpose if there was any reason.

“[M]y job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world that the language we use has to be a language of respect,”

“[T]he language we use matters,” “We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name.”
  • the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world
We have a stake in peace. Either the Muslim world quits being Muslim or quits existing. Which will it be? Otherwise, we will never have peace or security. Islam is permanent war, from 610 to Ressurection Day. [Abu Dawud 14.2526]
  • the language we use has to be a language of respect
Respect is given where respect is due, we earned ours and so will you. Islam is not worthy of respect and should receive nothing but execrations; it is pure, unmitigated evil, by design.
Ultimately, we cannot tell either the Israelis or the Palestinians what's best for them. They're going to have to make some decisions. But I do believe that the moment is ripe for both sides to realize that the path that they are on is one that is not going to result in prosperity and security for their people. And that instead, it's time to return to the negotiating table.
Islam is on the war path, Israel seeks peace. The existence of Muslims in the region is the only obstacle to peace. Those Muslims should decide to abandon Jihad, but they will not, because Allah will curse them if they do [Abu Dawud 32.3455]. They must fulfill their demonic mandate to reconquer Israel [9:29]. Muslims are interested in conquest, neither prosperity nor security. The life of this world is but an illusion; they sold it for the gardens of Paradise in the next [9:111]. What is there to negotiate about with those who seed your total destruction [Muslim 41.6985]?
I think that there are ideas across the region of how we might pursue peace.
Islam pursues 'peace' through conquest so that Dar al-Harb will be totally engulfed by Dar al-Islam. Get a clue, idiot. Victory is a prequisite to peace. While Islam exists on this planet, peace will not.
But I also believe that there are Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side.
Peace is achieved through extermination of aggressors, not by appeasement. No matter what Israel sacrifices, she will get nothing but escalated atteaks in return. There is nothing to negotiate about with those Hellbent on genocide.
Well, I think that when you look at the rhetoric that they've been using against me before I even took office --what that tells me is that their ideas are bankrupt. There's no actions that they've taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them.

In my inauguration speech, I spoke about: You will be judged on what you've built, not what you've destroyed. And what they've been doing is destroying things. And over time, I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.

  • their ideas are bankrupt.
Their idea is Islam: world conquest through genocidal Jihad terrorizing their victems to render them incapable of resisting effectively.
  • There's no actions that they've taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them
Islam is about conquest; punishing Allah's enemies and earning his rewards, not education or health care.
  • I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.
You are 'thinking' with your anus, not your brain. The Arab street is chanting Jihad and "death to Israel, death to America", not peace & prosperity.
The largest one, Indonesia. And so what I want to communicate is the fact that in all my travels throughout the Muslim world, what I've come to understand is that regardless of your faith -- and America is a country of Muslims, Jews, Christians, non-believers -- regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.
  • regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.
The hierarchy of needs we studied in psychology class does not apply to Muslims.
2:212. Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allâh's Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allâh gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favours, Honours, etc. on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit.

3:185. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).

4:77. Have you not seen those who were told to hold back their hands (from fighting) and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat­as­Salât), and give Zakât, but when the fighting was ordained for them, behold! a section of them fear men as they fear Allâh or even more. They say: "Our Lord! Why have you ordained for us fighting? Would that you had granted us respite for a short period?" Say: "Short is the enjoyment of this world. The Hereafter is (far) better for him who fears Allâh, and you shall not be dealt with unjustly even equal to the Fatilâ (a scalish thread in the long slit of a date­stone).

6:32. And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the Hereafter for those who are Al­Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2). Will you not then understand?

9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .
And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.
That is not what they want. They want to Impose Allah and the rule of his writ upon the entire world by force, as Allah commanded them to do.
But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that. Andthat I think is going to be an important task.
America was born as a group of colonies who threw off the colonial power and established independence. Muslims never respected us and never will, they hold us in contempt because we are not Muslims. Muslims can not take disbelievers as partners except fraudulently, to lull us into complacency; setting us up for attack. Thirty years ago, Khomeini's mob seized our embassy and held the staff hostage for a year.
And you're going to see me following through with dealing with a drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility. And finally, I think you've already seen a commitment, in terms of closing Guantanamo, and making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we're going to do so on our terms, and we're going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.
  • drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility
Iraqui responsibility is a function of secular, competent leadership with integrity, not corrupt Muslims lining their pockets. Decreasing American troop levels will not increase Iraqui responsibility, it will invite the rival gangs to kill each other & al-Qaeda to resume and expand operations.
  • closing Guantanamo
Those goons should have been shot, not captured and transported to this hemisphere. There is no safe live disposal. There is no benefit in closing Guantanamo, and a great many complications.
  • making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we're going to do so on our terms,
The statement is void, meaningless. The enemy is Islam, a predatory institution dedicated to warmongering. While it exists, we will have neither peace nor security. Getting rid of Islam is the only way to end the war it started in 623 and continues to the present day. Islam is the terrorist organization.
  • we're going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.
The rule of law that makes America great is a domestic matter: our Constitution, which enumerates the limited powers of the federal government. Government by consent of the governed, for limited, well defined purposes is what makes this nation exceptional. Foreign Salafist warriors captured on distant battlefields do not have Miranda rights, are not entitled to counsel or trials. Their entitlement is to one bullet between the eyes. The high rate of recidivism among those released so far points out the idicy of President Obama's policies.
I think that you're making a very important point. And that is that the language we use matters. And what we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name. But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.
  • extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence
Islam was created for the purpose of promoting & perpetuating war as a source of wealth, income & sex slaves for its founder. Its mission is mercenary and its method is martial.
  • We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name
Nobody else will point out, in this context, the source of the violence done in the name of Allah. I will. I do not give a damn who is offended.
Allah ordained fighting for Muslims; made it a mandatory requirement.
2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
Why in Hell is Jihad ordained for the "religion of peace"? For defense? Yeah, right. Moe fought one defensive battle when the Mekkans set out to eliminate him. Too bad they failed!

Allah commanded Muslims to fight disbelievers until all resistance ends and only Allah is worshiped: a total monopoly of faith and practice global in scope.
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
What does that mean, if not exactly what it says? What did Moe do about it? Try reading Ibn Kathir's Tafsir if you have any doubt: The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr.

Allah commanded the Muslims to fight Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and extorted.
9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
How do you explain that away? Don't try, it is enshrined in Islamic law: Umdat as-Salik O9.8.

The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),...

Think you can explain that away? Give it a try in the comments, but, before you do, read Ibn Kathir's Tafsir: The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah.

Each of the four major hadith collections has a book of Jihad or Expedition. How do you explain that fact? Sahih Bukhari dedicates three books: Jihad, Khumus & Expedition to war related matters. Explain that away, if you can.

One hadith collected by Abu Dawud proves my point better than any other. It illustrates the fatal fact of Islam: Islam is Jihad!
Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda -- that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it -- and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop. We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.

Islam is the terrorist organization that kills innocent civilians. Hunt it down and eracicate it! Moe was the prototypical terrorist.
  • Allah made me victorious by awe
  • I have been made victorious with terror
The last sentence in the current quote proves that we elected a fool.
  • But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.
60:1. O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists, etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism, this Qur'ân, and Muhammad ), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad ) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allâh your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure, (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists, etc., as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray, (away) from the Straight Path .
I have shown you two of seven ayeh which forbid friendly relations with disbelievers. If you have a good Muslim buddy, he is not a good Muslim or - this hadith cited by Ibn Kathir might apply.
For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.'' Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, "The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.'' [The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers]

You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran.

Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that's not conducive to peace and prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist organizations in the past -- none of these things have been helpful.

But I do think that it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran, to express very clearly where our differences are, but where there are potential avenues for progress. And we will over the next several months be laying out our general framework and approach. And as I said during my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us.
Go ahead, talk to Iran. Tell them about Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Tell them "once is enough, but we can use them again if we need to, and we will not hesitate". Unless you will say "Go to Hell and be damned!", there is nothing else to say to Iran. There is nothing to negotiate about with someone pledged to destroy our civilization.

12 comments:

Ema Nymton said...

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Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,

Paalees.

Mr Obama is simply following your example. Do you not talk to me, a liberal Christian Jewish Muslim?

(Have to admit though the spittle strewn slobber you put out is not as clear and understandable as Mr Obama's.) But as you are reaching out to liberals, Christians, Jews, and Muslims - should not Mr Obama do the same?
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BTW,

I noticed you have not answered the call for you to go.

Please go.

Go to the middle east and do the work you call for others to do. You know, put into action the final solution for the Islam question. (Or do you too have a cyst on your ass like Trash Lumbaughski?)

&@:-?
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RightHooks said...

Ben,

Outstanding post. One of your best. I was going to address the exact same issue in a post, but I have been busy. I happen to know that this post will likely reach some areas that we would be pleased with. I will address this with you in a private email today or tomorrow. And have you noticed that Ema has been reduced to a whining, name-calling, simpering idiot? Yet his arsenal is empty and he has no solid response to your post.

Anonymous said...

"I happen to know that this post will likely reach some areas that we would be pleased with. I will address this with you in a private email today or tomorrow."

ahahahaha.

RightHooks said...
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RightHooks said...

PW - I see that you are in Ema's kindergarten class...

Ben said...

Verbal sparring with ill informed idiots has its purpose: education. While we can't educate the idiots, we can educate others who read these comments.

Dialog with tin horn tyrants such as Amadinejad serves no useful purpose. If President Obama meets with him, the result will be increased status & prestige for Amadinejad. Nothing positive will be produced, and the tyrant will gain a propaganda advantage both domestically and regionally.

No Muslim tyrant will improve his attitudes, policies or programs as a result of talks with President Obama.

Iran will continue to use the same play book used by Saddam & Kim: deny, deceive, delay & demand.

The relationship between the two Presidents will be like that between Charlie Brown and Lucy. Like Lucy, Amadinejad will always pull the ball away at the last moment. Like Charlie, Obama will always convince himself that it'll be different this time.

Ema Nymton said...

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Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,

Do not get your pantyhose all tied up in a knot. The purpose of your posts is not education.

You adhere to strategy of typing as many paragraphs as possible in the hope that some other deluded fool will think you know what you're talking about. Every balloon bloated post you try to float, I deflate with reason and logic.

It is fun to watch as you and PackSmack do a two-step to avoid responsibility for your rantings and ravings.

Go forth and speak. I'll follow and poke fun.

*@:-?
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RightHooks said...

Ben, I agree totally; nothing can be gained by Obama's platitudes to Iran's little pencil-neck dweeb except to increase pencil-neck's image in the region. We should have aced him in 2003. The people I know said then that Iran was not a concern because 'we' were 'funneling' them [allowing them to get their hands on] faulty schematics; but in that process, they eventually figured it out. Now their nuclear program needs to go away.

Ema, so you have countered every post with reason and logic, have you? Well, perhaps you have been led to believe that the slow and small movements of activity between your ears is reason and logic, but the real world identifies such molecular behavior in your skull as pride, self-delusion, foolishness and insanity. But, hey, go ahead and pat yourself on your back; perhaps PW will reach over and lend a hand as well. Knock yourselves out.

Ben said...

Ema, yer about as reasonable & logical as a 2 year old playing with matches.

I don't write bloat, Ema, I include details. While others post their conclusions, I post the evidence supporting my conclusions.

Whats more, I provide readers with a means of verifying the evidence.

The bottom line, Ema, is that you have no relevant verifiable facts to refute the truth. You can't deal with the congruent pattern of barbarian violence formed by recitation, sunnah, sira & jurisprudence.

Offensive Jihad is fard al-kifaya, not ayn. It is not necessary that every Muslim swing a sword. Once a sufficient number is recruited, the others can sit at home and subsidize their warfare with Zakat.

Every Muslim is a potential Mujahid & terrorist. That's the fact; no denial, no matter how vehement nor how frequently repeated can overcome the fact of Hindu Kush, Armenia, Assyria, London, Madrid, Beslan & N.Y.C.

Anonymous said...

"I happen to know that this post will likely reach some areas that we would be pleased with. I will address this with you in a private email today or tomorrow."

delusions of grandeur...

and bad jokes/insults ("i see that you are in Ema's kindergarten class...")

and conspiracy theories galore.

and did i mention delusions of grandeur?

anyway, go packers.

RightHooks said...

PW,

Oh, really? Delusions of grandeur. Please keep this confidential, but check out your blog...

Ema Nymton said...

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Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,

"Every Muslim is a potential Mujahid & terrorist. That's the fact;"

Fact: every person, every person is a potential ((lover, sweetheart, liar, cheat, killer) insert whatever you want them to be).

"the congruent pattern of barbarian violence" can be seen from every point of view.

Fact: events in the past are passed. Half truths are whole lies.

"It is not necessary that every Muslim swing a sword. Once a sufficient number is recruited, the others can sit at home and subsidize their warfare with Zakat."

Nineteen men from Saudi Arabia steal four air craft and attack USA. You and PackSmack call for holy jihad against more than a billion people.

And you and PackSmack paint _every_ Muslim with the same brush. You and PackSmack call for the killing of _every_ Muslim because of the actions of a few!! NOW THAT IS A FACT!!

You say a fact is a fact. -
From _your_ warped point of view, the 'half-truth' fact is USA invaded, destroyed, and occupied the country of Iraq. All the people of Iraq must be punished because some are Muslims and had it coming to them.

Fact: Iraq was attacked, destroyed and occupied by foreign forces. Unarmed people of Iraq were killed. The people of Iraq have a right to resist occupation by foreign forces.

Truth: every side of an argument has its 'evidence supporting its 'truths' and conclusions with a means of verifying the evidence.

You take a fact, distort it significance, and call for a wholly inappropriate action. Sounds exactly like those who attack USA. One cannot separate you and your actions from those of the people you passionately and irrationally hate.

So much reason & logic from a 2 year old playing with matches.

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