Ema Nymton has left a new comment on the post "Obamination: Spewing Feces":People are what they are, not what we want them to be. Muslims are warriors, by Allah's commission. He purchased their lives & property for the price of admission to the celestial bordello so that they fight in his cause, kill and are killed. This fact is clear on the face of 9:111; it can not be denied. Ibn Kathir's Tafsir explains the bargain thusly.
Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,
"Every Muslim is a potential Mujahid & terrorist. That's the fact;"
Fact: every person, every person is a potential ((lover, sweetheart, liar, cheat, killer) insert whatever you want them to be).
Allah states that He has compensated His believing servants for their lives and wealth -- if they give them up in His cause -- with Paradise. This demonstrates Allah's favor, generosity and bounty, for He has accepted the good that He already owns and bestowed, as a price from His faithful servants. Al-Hasan Al-Basri and Qatadah commented, "By Allah! Allah has purchased them and raised their worth.'' Shimr bin `Atiyyah said, "There is not a Muslim but has on his neck a sale that he must conduct with Allah; he either fulfills its terms or dies without doing that.'' He then recited this Ayah. This is why those who fight in the cause of Allah are said to have conducted the sale with Allah, meaning, accepted and fulfilled his covenant. Allah's statement, (They fight in Allah's cause, so they kill and are killed.) indicates that whether they were killed or they kill the enemy, or both, then Paradise will be theirs.Maududi goes to considerable length in explaining this ayeh, here is a sample.
*106 In this verse that aspect of the Islamic Faith which determines the nature of the relationship between Allah and His servants has been called a transaction. This means that Faith is not merely a metaphysical conception but is, in fact, a contract by which the servant sells his life and possessions to Allah and in return for this accepts His promise that He would give him the Garden in the Life-after-death. In order to comprehend the full implications of this transaction, Iet us first understand its nature.
History is replete with Islamic conquest. Moe's Sira & Sunnah are full of it, and they are the primary models for Muslims to emulate. The Sunnah link gives you access to Sahih Bukhari. Read Books 52, 53 & 59. Those are Sunnah: exemplary conduct for Muslims to emulate in all places, at all times because Moe was the final Profit, there is no Profit after him; his recitation and exemplification of Allah's word are final.
"the congruent pattern of barbarian violence" can be seen from every point of view.
Fact: events in the past are passed. Half truths are whole lies.
"It is not necessary that every Muslim swing a sword. Once a sufficient number is recruited, the others can sit at home and subsidize their warfare with Zakat."The "magnificent 19" were the "mules" doing a "wet job" in a grand conspiracy 8 years in the making. Between 1787 and 1815, the Barbary Pirates attacked American merchant vessels. The explanation given for their attacks echoes the explanation given on the battlefield to a Persian general.
Nineteen men from Saudi Arabia steal four air craft and attack USA. You and PackSmack call for holy jihad against more than a billion people.
The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.Allah declared war upon everyone who does not submit to Islam. That declaration, contained in 8:39 & 9:29, is being prosecuted by the current generation of Allah's slaves. Allah sanctified and mandated war, they are waging it; we need to defend ourselves.
Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:-- "Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master."
The fact is that we call for the eradication of Islam because eradicating Islam is the only possible way to obtain & secure peace. While Islam exists, peace is impossible because Islam is permanent war. There are two possible ways to eradicate Islam.
And you and PackSmack paint _every_ Muslim with the same brush. You and PackSmack call for the killing of _every_ Muslim because of the actions of a few!! NOW THAT IS A FACT!!
- Emancipate Allah's slaves, removing the yoke of his slavery.
- Usher them into Hell.
War is Hell. If you don't want to burn, don't light the fire. Iraq invaded Kuwait, and was planning to push on to Saudi Arabia. They also cooperated with al-Qaeda and other terrorists. Iraq's egregious violation of the terms of cease fire were ample casus beli.
You say a fact is a fact. -
From _your_ warped point of view, the 'half-truth' fact is USA invaded, destroyed, and occupied the country of Iraq. All the people of Iraq must be punished because some are Muslims and had it coming to them.
The fact is that Iraq was the aggressor. Aggressors abrogate their rights, risking everything in the process. Iraq was not destroyed, heavily damaged, but not destroyed. We could have and should have nuked Iraq, we would have saved 4,000 lives and kept about 25,.000 others whole.
Fact: Iraq was attacked, destroyed and occupied by foreign forces. Unarmed people of Iraq were killed. The people of Iraq have a right to resist occupation by foreign forces.
I have chapter & verse, Ema. I frequently cite them, as I did above. 9:29 is the basis of Umdat as-Salik O9.8. 8:39 is the basis of O9.9. These, Ema, are Islamic law.
Truth: every side of an argument has its 'evidence supporting its 'truths' and conclusions with a means of verifying the evidence.
You take a fact, distort it significance, and call for a wholly inappropriate action. Sounds exactly like those who attack USA. One cannot separate you and your actions from those of the people you passionately and irrationally hate.
So much reason & logic from a 2 year old playing with matches.
O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya) ) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi' (y21), 6.48-49) ).
You can go to Scribid, look up the reference numbers and verify it, Ema. I recently posted a series of 24 quotes from Islamic jurists which confirm those rulings and explicitly state the minimal requirement of one attack per year. That is the fact, Ema, a fact which you can not counter. You have no proof to counter it because it is objective factual reality, supported by the clear text of the Qur'an, hadith & Shari'ah.
Permanent war, Ema! Permanent war, mandated in 2:216, sanctified in 9:29, exemplified in 33:26-27 & 59:2 and throughout the Jihad hadith. Islam is intolerable because it is a never ending mandate to murder, rape and enslave all who do not accept it. Jihad is prophesied to continue until Ressurection Day. Muslims are cursed if they abandon Jihad. Participation in Jihad is the price of avoiding Hellfire and admission to Paradise.
Facts, Ema. You can't disprove them; you can't refute them. Anyone reading this can verify them by following the links I have provided. The Qur'an & hadith form a pattern of barbarism which is confirmed by Shari'ah. It is also confirmed by Tafsir. Ibn Kathir spent his entire adult life studying & teaching Islamic scripture, tradition & law. His Tafsir verifies the demonic commands & promises which are the foundation of triumphalism, supremacism & Jihad. Prove him wrong, Ema! Each item in this list is the title of a tafsir topic. They speak for themselves, confirming what I have posted. "The Command", "The Order"," The Good News". They are links, Ema. Click them, see what Allah said; see what Moe said. Not out of context, mis-translated, mis-interpreted, perverted nor distorted. Go ahead, Ema, show your stuff; Prove Ibn Kathir to be wrong about the obvious meaning of Islamic scripture & tradition.
- The Command to have Enmity towards the Disbelievers and to abandon supporting Them
- The Command to strike the Enemies' Necks, tighten Their Bonds, and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom
- The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
- Allah gives Victory to the Believing Group
- Permission to fight; this is the first Ayah of Jihad
- The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
- The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
- The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
- The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites
- The Good News that Muslims will conquer the Known World, and ultimately the Entire World
- The Good News that Muslims will Dominate the People of the Book
- The Good News that Islam shall prevail