Learn to Write, Ema

Ema Nymton said... .

Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,

Oh Grate Won, do you even pay attention to what you write?

"I have never called for killing women and children. "????

"and kill the recalcitrant zealots."???

Recalcitrant zealots

To write well, Ema, one must have some mastery of vocabulary, syntax and rhetoric. But without relevant facts, those factors are useless in a political debate. I used the word zealots, Ema, to which I added a qualifier: recalcitrant. Zealots, Ema, are fanatics who believe and attempt to carry out Allaha's demonic imperatives. Recalcitrant zealots refers to those Muslims who can not be separated from Allah's yoke of slavery, who will persist in genocidal aggression no matter what. Example: the Hamaas goons who fill the streets brandishing rifles, grenades, knives and other weapons along with the demon's banner. We see thousands of them every time another Falestinian terrorist is sent to burn with Allah. Recalcitrant zealots does not mean women and children, Ema.

There are, as I stated before, two ways a Muslim can be rendered anodyne: apostasy and death. Age & gender are irrelevant to the matter. Muslims kill, by Allah's orders. If they are believers, Ema. I quoted 49:15, which defines the test of believers: only those who fight with their wealth and their lives in Allahs cause, Ema. I also cited Bukhari 4.52.65 which defines Allah's cause.

Women & children

Lets turn back to the issue of women and children. In Sahih Muslim 19.4294, Moe is quoted as saying:

Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children.

How would the holiness of a war be impaired by embezzling the spoils? How would the holiness of a war be impaired by killing children? How are the two related? By identity!!! Children are spoils, Ema. Understanding the evil of Islam involves some familiarity with Shari'ah. Once again, I cite Umdat as-Salik. [Emphasis added.]

O9.13

When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled.

The true purpose of Jihad is accrual of spoils. Captive women and children are income property for Muslims.

"As always, your straw man argument is cemented with excrement, revealing the contents of your otherwise empty skull. Too bad you lack facts & logic; you could not refute the obvious truth even if you had a fact."

Which version of the bible do you read?
Which version of the torah do you read?
Which version of the koran do you read?

Get a clue, Ema! I don't read the Torah and the Bible I read is irrelevant. Drop the distraction & diversion tactics and face the reality: Islam is pure, unmitigated God damn evil, by design. Now the uninitiated reader must assume that I am a profane bigot. Profane I am, bigot I ain't. If and when you become intimately familiar with Islam's canon of scripture, tradition, jurisprudence and exegeses, you will begin to comprehend the awful reality.

What's wrong with Islam?

To help you become familiar and aware, I uttered and published What’s Wrong With Islam/Muslims? and What You Need To Know About Islam.
Those files provide links to the most vital information. They are suitable for use as email inclusions or attachments.

Qur'an

I use the Hilali & Khan translation for reference. That is the one I keep in a file just below my desktop. It is a chm file with table of contents, index, search and favorites tabs. Others can download it from the New Expanded Library at Crusader's Armory. I also have the pdf version with the translator's notes. In case you want a copy for your desk top, there is a download link in the Resources post at Go Burn With Muhammad. For those who prefer the on line version, start with 2:190, read the footnote carefully.

I usually link to http://www.quranbrowser.com. In my previous post exposing Ema's stupidity and ignorance, I linked to three parallel translations by Pickthal, Shakir & Yusuf Ali at the Muslim Student Association at USC because it is easy to follow context there. While the word selections vary, the meanings do not. Hilali, Rodwell & Sale are less prone than others to Bowdlerize the text. Links at the bottom of the page at quranbrowser give access to proceeding and succeeding verses. Http://www.qtafsir.com has a search engine so you can look up verses in Ibn Kathir's Tafsir.

Oh Grate Won, you wrote, ""With the exception of Tirhmidi, most of the minor hadith collections are not available on the web. Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud and Malik's Muwatta are available, with named anchors for linking. The first two listed here are considered the most authentic.

If you consult tafsir & fiqh, you will discover that exegetes & jurists are dependent on hadith in forming and rationalizing their explanations and decisions." Ben wrote on 17 May 2009
http://righthooks.blogspot.com/2009/05/ban-ki-moon-traitor-or-buffoon.html

Oh Grate Won, you asked for facts and then avoid them.

Fact: You admit there are more than one interpretation and translation of the writings of islam, christianity, and judiaism.

I took that excrement apart in ample form in the previous post. Here it is again, just for the record.

As always, your straw man argument is cemented with excrement, revealing the contents of your otherwise empty skull. Too bad you lack facts & logic; you could not refute the obvious truth even if you had a fact.

The Qur'an can not be interpreted, only explained by comparison of ayat & hadith. It contains two kinds of ayat: clear and ambiguous. The clear verses are to be believed in and implemented; the unclear verses are to be believed but neither interpreted nor implemented. Intelligent readers may easily verify this fact by consulting Ibn Kathir's tafsir of 3:7.

Moe's extra-quranic words and works are the only authentic interpretation of the Qur'an. They are found in his sira & sunna. Moe, being Allah's mouthpiece, was the only one authorized to interpret what he recited. Speaking for Allah, he said:

Pickthall	And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.
Yusuf Ali	And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily God doth see all that they do.
Hilali-Khan	And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
Shakir	And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.
Sher Ali	And fight them until there is no persecution and religion is wholly to ALLAH. But if they desist, then surely ALLAH is Watchful of what they do.
Khalifa	You shall fight them to ward off oppression, and to practice your religion devoted to GOD alone. If they refrain from aggression, then GOD is fully Seer of everything they do.
Arberry	Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely; then if they give over, surely God sees the things they do;
Palmer	Fight them then that there should be no sedition, and that the religion may be wholly God's; but if they desist, then God on what they do doth look.
Rodwell	Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's. If they desist, verily God beholdeth what they do:
Sale	Therefore fight against them until there be no opposition [in favour of idolatry], and the religion be wholly God's. If they desist, verily God seeth that which they do:

Speaking for Allah, he said:

Pickthall	Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
Yusuf Ali	Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Hilali-Khan	Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Shakir	Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
Sher Ali	Fight those from among the people of the Book, who believe not in ALLAH, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what ALLAH and HIS Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax considering it a favour and acknowledge their subjection.
Khalifa	You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
Arberry	Fight those who believe not in God and the Last Day and do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden -- such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book -- until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.
Palmer	Fight those who believe not in God and in the last day, and who forbid not what God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who do not practice the religion of truth from amongst those to whom the Book has been brought, until they pay the tribute by their hands and be as little ones.
Rodwell	Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.
Sale	Fight against them who believe not in God, nor in the last day, and forbid not that which God and his apostle have forbidden, and profess not the true religion, of those unto whom the scriptures have been delivered, until they pay tribute by right of subjection, and they be reduced low.

Speaking on his own account, he confirmed the imperative.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."

Abu Dawud 14.2635
Narrated Anas ibn Malik:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have.

The words vary, the meaning does not. Two ayat, ten translations, one hadith from two narrators & translators. Commands to fight and a confirmation that he was commanded to fight.

Is there not more than one version of each of the world's holy scripts?

Fact: For every example of a call for holy war that can be pointed to in any of the 'holy' books of the major religions - it is up to people to learn to live together in peace.

Fact: You call for unending war, you say _all_ muslim call for unending war.

What is the difference between you and your make-believe enemy?

Answer the questions, Oh Grate Won.

The only question is: how can an idiot so analencephalic as you are breathe without mechanical assistance, much less compose rudimentary blog comments on a computer? You, Ema, are a most remarkable idiot savant!

It is more than a call to war, Ema! It is a collection of Goddamn imperatives, confirmed by hadith and codified in Shari'ah. Let him who has a brain get a clue.

• 2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
  

Ordained means legislated; its law. Holy fighting in Allah's cause is a binding obligation on all Muslims.

Jihad or Hell

• 9:38. O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allâh (i.e. Jihâd) you cling heavily to the earth? Are you pleased with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But little is the enjoyment of the life of this world as compared with the Hereafter.
  
  9:39. If you march not forth, He will punish you with a painful torment and will replace you by another people, and you cannot harm Him at all, and Allâh is Able to do all things.
• Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2497:
  Narrated AbuUmamah:
  
  The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He who does not join the warlike expedition (jihad), or equip, or looks well after a warrior's family when he is away, will be smitten by Allah with a sudden calamity. Yazid ibn Abdu Rabbihi said in his tradition: 'before the Day of Resurrection".
• 61:10. O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment.
  
  61:11. That you believe in Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allâh with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know!
  
  61:12. (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn ­ Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success.
  
  61:13. And also (He will give you) another (blessing) which you love, help from Allâh (against your enemies) and a near victory. And give glad tidings (O Muhammad ) to the believers.

Go to Jihad or go to Hell. What could possibly be more clear? The two primary Jihad imperatives are quoted in two tables above. Hilali & Khan have multiple references:

• fight: 369
• strive: 186
• Jihad: 22
• kill them: 6

What did Moe do about it?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 285:

Narrated Abu Ishaq:

Once, while I was sitting beside Zaid bin Al-Arqam, he was asked, "How many Ghazwat did the Prophet undertake?" Zaid replied, "Nineteen." They said, "In how many Ghazwat did you join him?" He replied, "Seventeen." I asked, "Which of these was the first?" He replied, "Al-'Ashira or Al-'Ashiru."

Hadith

• Bukhari
• Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)
• One-fifth of Booty to the Cause of Allah (Khumus)
• Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi)
• Muslim
• The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wa'l-Siyar)
• Abu Dawud
• Jihad (Kitab Al-Jihad)
• Malik's Muwatta
• Jihad

Extortion Letters

Most people do not know that Moe dictated extortion letters to scribes and dispatched them by personal currier. To those who did not pay up, he sent his army.

LETTER TO THE JEWS OF KHYBER In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful From Muhammad, the Prophet of Allah who is like Moosa (Moses A.S.) a prophet and messenger and he testifies to what Moosa (A.S.) had brought. 0 people of Torah, has Allah not stated in the Torah that "Muhammad (Sal Allaho Alehe Wasallam) is a Prophet of Allah. The people who will be with him, shall be harsh towards the enemies of Allah. And amongst themselves, they shall be kind and loving. They shall bow and prostrate before Allah. And they shall seek His bounty and goodwill". I ask you to swear by Allah, who sent Torah for you and who made your forefathers eat 'mann, and 'Salva' and dried sea for them and rid them of the tyranny of pharaoh. It is not written in Torah that you should believe in me? After the explanation about me in the Torah, do guidance and transgression become apparent? Therefore I invite you towards Allah and His Prophet.' Seal: Allah's Prophet Muhammad

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaibar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet . The Prophet made her manumission as her 'Mahr'.

No expiration date

Jihad is not an anachronism; it has no expiration date.

Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2526


Narrated Anas ibn Malik:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

Sahih Muslim Book 020, Number 4716:

It has been narrated on the authority of Mughira who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: A group of people from my Umma will continue to be triumphant over the people until the Command of Allah overtakes them while they are still triumphant. The same tradition has been narrated through another chain of transmitters on the same authority.