Wednesday, December 10, 2008
Chicagobama Spins Semantic Voodoo
Like Bill Clinton's own semantic-spin statement, "That depends on what the word, 'is,' is," President elect Barack Obama embarked on his own slippery slope of semantic voodoo yesterday when he said, of ever having talked with the corrupt Illinois Governor, "I had no contact with the governor or his office and so I was not aware of what was happening."
I suppose the truthfulness of this all depends on what the word,'I' is, huh?
Does he mean, 'I,' as in 'I myself, personally never spoke with the governor,' or does he mean, 'I, myself, my assistants or my office never spoke with the governor'?
Good heavens, here we go again, and the man hasn't even been sworn in yet...!
Should we really be subjected to having to dissect the words that slide out of our leaders' mouths?
The indicted Governor himself has been caught on tape referring to discussions and things that his office and Obama's people were, 'working on,' together. Yet Obama insists nothing of the sort has ever happened.
That sickening feeling inside your stomach is called dread: you see a duck; you hear it quack; because other ducks have quacked before, you know what it is; but you know that duck is going to lie to you every time it opens up its mouth for the next four years and there's nothing you can do to shut it up.
On the other hand, this is exactly who America voted for, so it is not even a tiny bit surprising that the wheels of the bus are starting to fall off already.
But there will be no pity coming from here.
And because there is so much more of this mire ahead to swim in, I hope the people who voted for Obama like Semantic Voodoo Duck Soup.
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Really reaching for something to create a scandal, aren't you?
This blog is interesting but be careful. Is your goal to make yourself as irrelevant as your ally sights like "A Little More To The Right" and "7.62 Justice"?
But what the heck? Dissect all you want. Mr Obama has not even taken the oath of office and you are throwing a hissy fit.
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you have "working on" way way way out of context...
blagojevic is talking to a union representative about his scheming and he says he "wanted to be able to call" an advisor to obama and further the governor's corrupt plans. he then says that his plans "have nothing to do with anything else we're WORKING ON..." (emphasis mine), implying that whatever they are "working on" has "nothing to do with" blagojevic's schemes.
it should also be noted that blagojevic never directly contacts anyone from the obama campaign. he talks about WANTING to contact the obama campaign.
additionally, the man who knows more about this case than any of us, pat fitzgerald, the u.s. attorney handling the case, has made it very clear that there is absolutely no evidence that obama was in any way involved in this.
also, blagojevic launched into profanity-laced tirades about how he didn't think obama would help him out at all.
PW, Oh really now? What about this???:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/12/questions-arise.html
But I suppose that you swallowed that the dude 'Misspoke'...c'mon, neither of us was born yesterday!
Ema: Naw, you've got it all wrong. 'Irrelevant' to whom, to those who fiddle as Rome burns? For the issues presented here are certainly not irrelevant to those who understand the Constitution and will die trying to protect it (instead of usurping it, like your man...)
I DARE you to read this when you get some time...:http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/#more-5324.
Nuff said.
i don't doubt that obama's aides spoke to blagojevich about his senate seat. and i'm not surprised that axelrod wants to distance obama from blagojevich, even if obama did nothing wrong.
i'm pointing out that there is absolutely NO evidence that obama was involved in this scandal. in fact, all the evidence seems to point against obama having a role in it. the governor said "fuck obama" because blagojevich judged him to be uninterested in any kind of scheme.
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Irrelevant to humans. Honestly trying to use guilt by association through this case is too laughable. The government has released the tape of the Governor himself trashing Mr Obama because Mr Obama would only give appreciation.
Please clearly state which crime you think Mr Obama committed. Then maybe it will be reasonable to demand answers.
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Maybe "Voodoo" is appropriate for your efforts to rebuilding the Conservative movement. Raising the dead (Right Wing, Religious Conservatives, Republicans) will need all the help you can come up with.
Voodoo may work for you. Lets face it, facts, justice, truth and honesty are lacking in your approach to solving the problems in USA.
Good luck.
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PW, that's hair-splitting, which is exactly my point; now we have to go in and dissect every word that he says, literally, if we want to find out the truth. There is no difference between Obama talking to the governor or Obama's representative - none.
Furthermore, how would the scumbag governor even know if Obama wasn't gonna give him anything unless he SPOKE with the Obama camp?
If you believe this voodoo, I've got a bridge to sell you...
Ema,
So how would the gov know that Obama wouldn't play unless he got a rejection from Obama? And how does one get a rejection unless he has been in communication with Obama's people? Yet Obama denies knowing anything. Riiight.
Now don't get all arrogant here with this kind of nonsense, :"Please clearly state which crime you think Mr Obama committed. Then maybe it will be reasonable to demand answers."
Did I say Obama had committed a crime? I don't think I've said that. And if I did, I wouldn't need you to give me answers. Just sayin. And did I 'demand' answers from you? Not. You are pretty skinny when it comes to having answers.
And then there's this gem, "Voodoo may work for you. Lets face it, facts, justice, truth and honesty are lacking in your approach to solving the problems in USA." No, I'm not the one spinning voodoo - your boy Obama is doing enough for both of us so I don't have to. Let's get the facts, let's get justice, let's find the truth and be honest...I've never had any problems with those things. So maybe you should get the facts straight instead of spinning some voodoo of your own.
p.s. and then there's THIS: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/12/10/blagojevichs-big-conference-call-and-valerie-jarretts-clean-break/
Read and weep.
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Ah ha! Got ya! So yo admit not denying you did not remember to not say you thought the earth is flat!! Ah ha!
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"...Did I say Obama had committed a crime? I don't think I've said that. ..."
So why do you ask, except to show how bleeping stupid a question you heard someone else ask and repeat? Should Mr Obama also answer every possible inane question you can come up with on the Chicago fire from 1871 started by Mrs Oleary's cow? What relationship did he have with the cow and when did he have it?
"... Let's get the facts, let's get justice, let's find the truth and be honest..." on why the Greenbay Packers gave up their quarterback?
Oh please give it a break. But then again you can continue rebuilding the conservative movement on a "corruption free" Republican run government approach.
Ciao
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"... I DARE you to read this when you get some time...:http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/#more-5324. ..."
Read it. Now why tell me why Mr Obama's "... mother was not old enough to pass on to him U.S. citizenship at birth. ..."?
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Ema,
I am sure you were drunk when you posted the 2nd to the last comment...admit it, you were sloshed.
Unfortunately, a president cannot have parents of dual citizenship (one USA, one non-USA).
Have a nice weekend.
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Sober? How many shots have you had?
"... Unfortunately, a president cannot have parents of dual citizenship (one USA, one non-USA)."
Oh really? Where oh where did you come up with this chestnut? Not the US Constitution, I am sure.
A person is said to be a 'natural-born' citizen of USA by 'blood' if at the time of the person's birth, at least one of the person's parents is a citizen of USA at the time of birth.
(The U.S. recognizes citizenship according to two fundamental principles: jus soli (right of birthplace), and jus sanguinis (right of blood). Under jus soli, a person receives American citizenship by virtue of being born in the United States. By contrast, jus sanguinis confers citizenship on those born to at least one U.S. citizen anywhere in the world. )
So the simple question to determine if Mr Obama is a natural-born citizen of USA is, "was the mother of Mr Obama a citizen of USA when Mr Obama was born?"
Answer is "yes.' Case closed.
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Ema, you are wrong...different qualifications for citizenship and eligibility to be POTUS.
Let's see what the Supreme Court says when it decides tomorrow (Monday)on if it will take the case. Imagine they do...and imagine if they uphold the Constitution, denying Obama from usurping, er, taking the White House...you gonna riot with all his other peeps? I'll send you $100 if he loses and they don't riot.
Do you know what state I live in?
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"... Do you know what state I live in?"
The state of denial which borders on chaos and confusion?
Like so many who cannot bring themselves to accept the realization that the people of USA chose to go with a man with brains and abilities, you are imagining that maybe the people and Mr Obama can be cheated. You are wishing that Mr Obama can be declared not eligible to be POTUS because of the issue of citizenship. You are hanging your hat on activist judges of the Supreme Court. Not likely to happen.
(Again what issue in the Constitution prevents Mr Obama from being President? Other than his being black?)
While I am imagining, I imagine USA goes back to being a 'land of laws' and proceeds to arrest the administration of Mr Bush for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Then ships them off to the Hague, Netherlands to stand trial.
"... ...you gonna riot with all his other peeps? I'll send you $100 if 'Mr Bush and Co' loses and the RW don't riot. ..."
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Ema, you said, "proceeds to arrest the administration of Mr Bush for war crimes and crimes against humanity"...so I suppose you were out there hollering when Bill Clinton lied to the country about his affair with Monica, right? I suppose that you also are down at the local abortion clinic also protesting against the slaughter if innocent babies, too, right? C'mon, let's be consistent!...
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At least when Mr Clinton got his rocks off, no one died.
Are you equating a legal blow job between consenting adults (Monica and Bill), on the same relative terms as a war of aggression against the people of Iraq?
Or are you trying to spin more semantic voodoo relativism?
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Ema, Thank you for incorporating my phrases into your vocabulary.
'War of Aggression?' Seems to me that Sadaam Hussein was aggressive when he went into Kuwait and then failed to fulfill his cease-fire agreements, thus making him eligible and qualified for any follow-up activity to remove him from power. That is cut and dry. Can't argue with that.
Have you hugged your tree today?
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"Ema, Thank you for incorporating my phrases into your vocabulary. ..."
"... Have you hugged your tree today?"
Happy am I to see that you have not loss the ability to laugh at yourself. Many of the postings on your blog are simple, simplistic and silly. For an intelligent person as yourself, it really must be difficult to try to defend the twaddle of the RW.
Why do you do it? It is obvious you do not believe half of what you post.
Have you hugged your gun today?
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Which gun were you referring to? My .270? .35? SKS? 10/22? .44mag? 25WSSM? Browning .22? or the Remington.22? (I might have forgotten a few in there...)
Why do I write? Do you want the HONEST answer or just an answer...because there is a difference.
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...I mean seriously, the real answer is pretty heavy, and I don't want to booby-trap you or sand bag you...it's deep water. Just warning you.
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"...I mean seriously, the real answer is pretty heavy, and I don't want to booby-trap you or sand bag you...it's deep water. Just warning you."
This be your blog. Go forth and do great things. Be there harm, to whom asks Master Yoda?
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Well, I have no idea what that meant, being that I am not a Star Wars fan and thus rather Star-Wars challenged...
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Whatever.
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