"Do you think that there's a possibility that the First Amendment interest is greater when what the government is trying to stifle is not just a speaker who wants to say something but also a hearer who wants to hear what the speaker has to say?"The right of free speech implies a right to listen. Without listeners, the speech would be wasted. In the case of talk radio, the listeners have a many to one ratio. The rights of large numbers of people are threatened by proposed censorship.
Peter Ferrara points out other cases in which the same concept has been raised. Will the Supreme Court up hold those precedents? Will a majority of the court side with Justice Scalia?
I am not convinced that we can depend on either contingency coming to pass. We need to apply maximal political pressure to prevent the passage and enforcement of censorship laws and regulations. Representatives and Senators must be made to fear for their jobs if they support censorship, its our first line of defense. The initial case against McCain-Feingold confirmed the magnitude of the risk we take in relying on the last line of defense.
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Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,
“ "Do you think that there's a possibility that the First Amendment interest is greater when what the government is trying to stifle is not just a speaker who wants to say something but also a hearer who wants to hear what the speaker has to say?"”
Get help.
You and PackSmack are for the most extreme form of repression against Islam, its teachings, and its adherents. Your fear and hate drive you to want Islam censured, Islam’s teachings censored, and the followers of Islam killed.
Now you are against it?
Great comedy. If you’re not a whit, you’re a half a one.
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I agree whole heartedly Ben-the more pressure (and fear) to prevent censhorship, the better. And that's what folks like Ema don't get. Ema doesn't get that if Islam WERE to become the norm-she will have not only not right to free speech; but Islam will cover her face with a veil and her body with a hajib; Islam will essentially take away every right her female predecessors have fought long and hard for-like her right to vote and marry who she chooses. She will go back to living in the dark ages (kind of like she is already only moreso) and long for the days when she could hear what Rush (and Hannity, and Levin, and co.) has to say about the truth.
Thanks for your comments, Kyrie. You are correct that Islam's treatment of women is despicable (yet where are all the women's-rights voices???). And yes, Hannity rocks.
Don't believe that Ema is a female...he claims to be a lesbian Muslim with some kids, but he's not. He's a male (Ema Nymton = NotMyName backwards.). In other places he posts as 'Otto Mattic.' But your points are right on.
my apologies to the "lady" :0) now i understand where he/she is coming from tho (split posting personality and all) and I really appreciate you steering me "straight" on that Ben :0).
Looks like we got another right-winger in here!! Yipee !!
Not me, Kyrie! PackSmack thinks Ema is male, I don't. I detect feminine writing characteristics in her style, besides feminine 'logic'.
In reality, gender is not germane to the issues being debated.
Actually, I picture Ema as a snake, forming a circle, with the tip of her tail projecting on a tangent and her head buried deep inside.
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Right Hooks,
Please. You make me blush. The original post is about free speech not who Ema Nymton is.
Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul and PackSmack are for the most extreme form of repression of freedom against Islam, its teachings, and its adherents. Their fear and hate drive them to want Islam censured, Islam’s teachings censored, and the followers of Islam killed.
But somehow they are worried about 'hate radio' remaining free.
Who I am is of no importance. But if you must know - feel free to visit,
http://hotvote.hotjoy.de/graphics/usrdir/5/5/9/5/5955/5955_thumb640x480.jpg
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Ema Nymton said:
"Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul and PackSmack are for the most extreme form of repression of freedom against Islam, its teachings, and its adherents. Their fear and hate drive them to want Islam censured, Islam’s teachings censored, and the followers of Islam killed."
Just like I said in a prior post. Typical liberal s.o.p. where posting is concerned. Say the same thing, over and over and over (ad nauseum) while never really saying a thing worth repeating or using their right to free speech in a productive way. What's a conservative to do? You can lead a horse (she/man) to water . . . but you surely can't make them drink.
Come on now Ema . . . you know you LOVE all the attention. That is after all while you come here and post, right (it's all about you, you, you and the attention)? Coincides nicely with that other boring liberal trait that entails us capitalist pigs giving you OUR hard earned money -- but we can't call YOU greedy right? And, let's not forget: repression, repression, repression while you want to put the free world INTO repression with your muslim and socialist agendas. OK . . . yep. That makes perfect (non)sense.
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Kyrie Eleison,
You may call me anything you like. Name calling fits in well here. You like to name call, paint with a big wide brush, and be dismissive. Go for it if it makes you feel like a man.
This blog, RightHooks, and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul are on record for killing _all_ followers of Islam. You do with them what ever you want. But when you call for the killing of my family and me (a citizen of USA and veteran), then I will stand up to you too.
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My apologies again Ema. I was not aware name calling, dismissiveness and wide brush painting was a one way street here - that only you were allowed to be on. I'll keep that in mind for future posting while I freely listen to Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Liddy and co.; while I still can.
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Kyrie Eleison,
Apology excepted.
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This blog is an instrument of advocacy for human liberty. Life is a necessary prerequisite to liberty.
Anything that threatens life threatens liberty. Anything that threatens liberty threatens life.
Islam is inimical to both. Islamic rape, pillage & plunder can only be terminated by terminating the existence of Islam.
Islam is violent by design: Surah Al-Anfal & Surah At-Tauba are entirely devoted to warmongering. They establish conquest, genocide & terrorism as intrinsic sacraments of Islam.
They are Allah's perfected word; his law to rule and govern all human life on earth until doomsday.
Allah's word is perfected, thus fixed and immutable. Islam can not be reformed, nor can it be rendered harmless or non-threatening.
Islam must be eliminated. Either cause its votaries to become apostates, or usher them into Hell. Those are our choices. The former is far more humane, the latter is more practical.
The most practical course of action is to make a two pronged attack. Begin by attacking Islam on the ideological plane; expose its founder's doctrines and execrable pattern of behavior. Once they learn what they serve and whom they follow on the path to Hell those who retain a vestige of morality will revolt and reject Allah's yoke of slavery.
The true believing zealots are unlikely to take that path; they must be ushered into Hell. Identifying and locating them is a difficult problem. The solution is to induce self-identification & congregation.
That solution is best implemented by killing one of their upper tier leaders. Thousands will march in his funeral procession, which should be bombed and strafed. Thousands more will march in the resulting funeral processions, riots and demonstrations all over the world, thus identifying themselves as zealous mujahideen and easy targets.
Israel wasted the best opportunity when they let Sheikh Yasin's funer al procession pass unscathed.
Shame is the most effective ideological weapon against Muslims. It is common knowledge that he married Aisha when she was six, consummating the marriage three years later. What is not common knowledge is what he was doing to her for the previous three years before the marriage.
Its a form of frotism, called thighing, you can search Google and find it. There is a firm foundation in sunna for Imam Khomeini's fatwa concerning deriving sexual pleasure from infants. Its ok so long as you do not inflict injury nor penetrate beyond the circumcision scar.
Allah's Messenger, yer revered Profit, was a lecherous pedophile!!
Besides that, he was a pirate. 8:1, 8:41, 8:67, 33:27 and several ayat in Al-Fath expose his true motivation with extreme clarity.
These fatal facts must be exposed. That is why I have prepared Powerpoint presentations, printable fliers and other documents that can be used as email attachments. That is why several on line petitions contain copious quotes from the Qur'an & hadith. Links to them can be found at http://www.geocities.com/crusadersarmory/ . Anyone can sign those petitions and spread them by email.
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Kyrie Eleison,
Welcome to extreme CONservative jerk off city, also known as RightHooks.
Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul said, "Life is a necessary prerequisite to liberty."
And Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul is perfectly willing to call for others to kill people. Remember Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul 'says' he is a x-tain.
You can be proud to be associated with this lot of keyboard warriors.
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Ben said: "This blog is an instrument of advocacy for human liberty. Life is a necessary prerequisite to liberty.
Anything that threatens life threatens liberty. Anything that threatens liberty threatens life.
Islam is inimical to both. Islamic rape, pillage & plunder can only be terminated by terminating the existence of Islam.
Islam is violent by design: "
Excellent addition to the original comments Ben and so absolutely true. I also agree that: "Islam MUST be elimanted." It is the only way.
Ema said: "Kyrie Eleison,
Welcome to extreme CONservative jerk off city, also known as RightHooks.
Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul said, "Life is a necessary prerequisite to liberty."
And Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul is perfectly willing to call for others to kill people. Remember Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul 'says' he is a x-tain.
You can be proud to be associated with this lot of keyboard warriors.
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I thank you very much for the warm welcome and kudos on the company I keep in cyberspace.
Yes - we Christians are ready to fight and die to defend our faith and the Author of our faith. And don't you forget it.
Signed,
One proud EXTREME Conservative keyboard warrior.
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Kyrie Eleison,
""Islam MUST be elimanted." It is the only way."
Just to be clear. How do _you_ want to eliminate Islam? Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul and RightHooks call for genocide, mass killings, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. Are you also calling for the killing of unarmed and defenseless citizens of USA and the rest of the world too?
I can see how Jesus Christ would be proud of you.
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"we Christians are ready to fight and die to defend our faith and the Author of our faith."
Please list (chapter and verse), where in your holy book, Jesus Christ told you you had to do this?
Also, from whom do you want to defend your faith? If you have faith, it cannot be taken away from you. You can lose your faith, or walk away from your faith, but no one can take a way your faith.
You will not lie yourself to the truth.
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Book 37, Number 4310:
Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
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RightHooks,
Oops looks like someone is clearly declaring himself a true follower of Islam.
In response to, "Please list (chapter and verse), where in your holy book, Jesus Christ told you you had to do this?"
Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul wrote, "Partial Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 37:
Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah: ..."
Good for coming out Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul and declaring your Islamic faith so openly.
BTW - My question was addressed to the other joker, Kyrie Eleison,
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The God'd fool wrote:
"Also, from whom do you want to defend your faith? If you have faith, it cannot be taken away from you. You can lose your faith, or walk away from your faith, but no one can take a way your faith."
I answered from Islam's canon of tradition:
He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam.
Get a clue, Cretin!! Moe said that Jesus will return to kill the remaining Jews & Christians and all religions other than Islam would be destroyed.
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Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,
"He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam."
And this will be possible how?!
Honestly, you have not got the sense god gave a goose to get out of the rain. Is your faith in your god so weak, is your fear so great that another person can 'break' it???
"Get a clue, Cretin!! Moe said that Jesus will return to kill the remaining Jews & Christians and all religions other than Islam would be destroyed."
And you believe this why? Because a person you spit your hate and venom at said so??
Why are so many fundamentalist bible-thumping religious types so blankety-blank blank insecure? Half the world's troubles come from scared self-righteous self-doubting "believers." And some slick con man playing off the chumps' fears.
Go back to your closet. The brave liberal secular humanist adults of the world will protect you.
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Ohh, this is rich...
"The brave liberal secular humanist adults of the world will protect you."
Brave?? Ha Ha Ha Ha. They are ALL yellow-bellied COWARDS! Chumps! NOBODY on this planet is afraid of such types. The only thing they are good at killing are fellow Americans and BABIES!!! Yeah, it takes a real man to KILL A BABY!!!
Protect? Ha Ha Ha Ha. What you really mean is Appease and Surrender!! Protect? Rubbish! Hogwash! BS! Protect who? I'll tell you who they protect, they protect their POWER and those who made FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS to their CAMPAIGNS, and also their SOCIALIST AGENDA. Besides these things they protect NOTHING! They are shallow, empty, soul-less hypocrites. They can protect nothing because either they 1.) do recognize evil [because of their relative value system which does not recognize absolute truth] or 2.) they are unwilling to confront it [why die for something that may not be true? they say.] THEY ARE COWARDS not worthy of ANY public responsibility because they do not know what the term means.
Great yoke, Ema. Now go take that thong off and get to work.
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PackSmack,
You feel you have to step in here. Why don't you answer the questions?
Your not so secret Muslim friend Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul wrote,
"He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam."
My questions, "And this will be possible how?!"
Honestly, you and your not so secret Muslim friend have not got the sense god gave a goose to get out of the rain.
"Is your faith in your god so weak, is your fear so great that another person can 'break' it???"
Again your not so secret friend wrote, "Get a clue, Cretin!! Moe said that Jesus will return to kill the remaining Jews & Christians and all religions other than Islam would be destroyed."
My questions are, "And you believe this why? Because a person you spit your hate and venom at said so??"
"Why are so many fundamentalist bible-thumping religious types so blankety-blank blank insecure? Half the world's troubles come from scared self-righteous self-doubting "believers." And some slick con man playing off the chumps' fears."
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Ema,
Dude, were you like abused when you were a kid, or something? Did your parents move without telling you? Were you kidnapped and held for ransom or something? I mean, you really, really have some issues burning on the inside...
I mean, you missed Ben's entire point. You took it a whole 'nuther direction.
I can't even answer your question because it is so filled with wrong assumptions and implications and false conclusions...so I'm gonna let this one go.
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PackSmack,
Coward.
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Ema, when you wans your brain in the crapper, flush it first so you don't substitute a turd for your brain. Of course, the lesson comes too late for you. Perhaps others can learn from it.
Moe, your Profit, the greatest and best of men, Allah's final messenger issued the prophecy I quoted.
In your idiotic raving, you claimed that Christians have nothing to fear from Islam. Nothing but destruction, for Chrissake, by their own Saviour, no less.
Your stupidity is matched only by your boundless dishonesty.
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Self-Outed Not So Secret Muslim Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul,
You really are afraid. In your chickenheartedness you babble pure meshuggaas.
"claimed that Christians have nothing to fear from Islam. Nothing but destruction, for Chrissake, by their own Saviour,"
Coward
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Ema Nymton said: "Kyrie Eleison,
""Islam MUST be elimanted." It is the only way."
Just to be clear. How do _you_ want to eliminate Islam? Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul and RightHooks call for genocide, mass killings, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. Are you also calling for the killing of unarmed and defenseless citizens of USA and the rest of the world too?
I can see how Jesus Christ would be proud of you."
WOW!!! I leave town for a couple of days and it looks like you guys (Ben & PackSmack did a stellar job getting Ema straight-he/she is livid! Nice work gentlemen :0).
As for giving away secrets in a time of battle to the enemy Ema - that is called TREASON. Obama has done enough of that-I have no intentions of adding to the damage he and his administration have already caused. Mums the word with this lady :0)
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Kyrie Eleison,
VERY BIG DIFFERENCE.
You may not agree with me on anything. I may find your stated goals (killing people for their beliefs) and your sick approach (advocating genocide, calling for war crimes and crimes against humanity) to life totally offensive and anti-American. BUT
You are not an enemy. I guess that's the liberal in me.
FYI - Your not answering the questions is taking the coward's way out.
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Hi Ema!
OK-now I see there is another rule to this game I did not know existed. So far we have:
#1-Only Ema/Liberals can call people names,
#2-Only Ema/Liberals can manipulate what has been stated in a post,
#3-Only Ema/Liberals can avoid answering questions directly.
#4-Only use scripture when Ema/Liberals say it is OK to ((so Ema/Liberals can twist & manipulate scripture (and the Law) as well)).
Is there any other liberal rules to this game you'd like to add and get out on the table - so I can play this game correctly Ema???
So what did I miss on Rush and Hannity the other day gentlemen??? I want to know everything I can, WHILE I can get the info before the liberals push their deceitful "Fairness" doctrine through.
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Kyrie Eleison,
Rules? Since when have extreme RW types needed rule to make themselves snivel and whine about being victims? Since joining this conversation you have not missed a single RW victim talking point. (I apologize, you have not trashed Social Security and people who are sucking Amerika dry, yet.)
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Dear Kyrie, I slept through Rush. Sean was spewing LibTurd: "Islam is not the enemy"... our fight is with "radical Islam". Infected by the PC virus, I presume.
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