President Obama met with the "President Abbas" June 9, 2010 and held a joint press conference, which he refused to do with Prime Minister Netanyahu. The White House provided a transcript. My intention is to expose the arrogant traitor by contrasting his clever lies with the truth.
Bare Naked Islam posted a video of the press conference. Watch it, but be careful to avoid vomiting on your keyboard.
I just want to thank President Abbas for being here, and his delegation. We just concluded some very productive discussions on this issue. I commended President Abbas for the excellent work that he and Prime Minister Fayyad have been engaged in over the last several years in strengthening the security as well as improving the economic situation for his people. He’s done so through hard work and dedication, and I think the whole world has noticed the significant improvements that we've seen as a consequence of his good administration.
Exactly what did those discussions produce? Did Abbas do anything about official incitement? Did he do anything about the inculcation of hatred in his schools and summer camps? Did he discard the practice of honoring terrorists by naming streets, plazas, institutions and events after them? We know blessed well that he did not and will not do any of those things.
Exactly what substantive action did Abbas take to enhance the security of his people? Did he do anything to curb provocations against Israel, which generate the greatest threat to their welfare when Israel is forced to retaliate? Did he do anything effective to curb the rival gangs whose fights often entrap "innocent civilians" ? We know blessed well that he did not and will not do any of those things.
Exactly what did Abbas do to improve the economic situation of his people? Did he stop wasting money on weapons and terrorists? Did he curb corruption? Did he recover any of the foreign aid diverted by Arafat ? We know blessed well that he has not done and will not do any of those things.
Exactly what improvements has he made? How extensive and how permanent are they?
But obviously there is a lot of work that remains to be done so that we can create a two-state solution in the Middle East in which we have an Israel that is secure and fully accepted by its neighbors, and a Palestinian people that have their own state, self-determination, and the ability to chart their own destiny.
Creating a Falestinian state is not a solution. No quantity of work will enable the creation of a stable, self supporting, anodyne Falestinian state. The difference between a Falestinian state and the Falestinian Authority is statehood. That is an artificial legal concept which has no effect whatsoever on objective factual reality.
They had an opportunity to have their own state, unjustly carved out of the territory mandated for Israel, just as Trans-Jordan was stolen from Israel's patrimony. Instead, they chose war, preferring attempted politicide & genocide to a state of their own. Statehood would not make any improvement.
Israel will never be secure, nor will it be accepted by its neighbors so long as its neighbors are slaves of Allah. Allah hates Jews, he wants them all dead. He commanded Muslims to wage war against them until all the Jews are subjugated and submit to extortion. He established the final genocide of the Jews as a prerequisite for the opening of the gates of Paradise. Who will Allah send to torment the Jews? [Emphasis added.]
7:167. And (remember) when your Lord declared that He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. Verily, your Lord is Quick in Retribution (for the disobedient, wicked) and certainly He is OftForgiving, Most Merciful (for the obedient and those who beg Allâh's Forgiveness).
There is a reason why Muslims will never accept the existence of Israel. Nobody in a position of power and authority will reveal it to you. Since I am not in a position of power or authority and do not make a living from public speaking or writing, I am able and willing to reveal it. Israel is living proof of the fact that Allah is an impotent idol. Islam is a lie, Muslims are liars, and Israel stands as living proof of that fact. Her existence is the ultimate blasphemy to Muslims.
When Muslims conquer a territory, it becomes waqf, in perpetual trust for Allah. Allah will never relinquish it; it is impossible for conquered kuffar to recover their land and rule over its Muslim occupiers.
Allah promised Muslims victory in the Qur'an: 3:125, 5:52, 14:15, 17:6, 29:10. He said "We gradually reduce the land (of disbelievers, by giving it to the believers, in war victories) from its outlying borders. in 13:41 ". Allah promised in 8:65, a ten to one kill ratio, reducing it to two to one in the next verse.
If Allah were the deity and his promises valid, Israel would have been annihilated in 1948 or any of the latter attempts at genocide. Only ignorant fools believe that peaceful coexistence with Islam is possible. Only traitors pretend that it is possible.
Now, we've just gone through a difficult period in the region. We saw the tragedy with the flotillas, something that I think has drawn attention all around the world to the ongoing problems in Gaza. As part of the United Nations Security Council, we were very clear in condemning the acts that led to this crisis and have called for a full investigation. And it is important that we get all the facts out. But what we also know is that the situation in Gaza is unsustainable. I think increasingly you're seeing debates within Israel, recognizing the problems with the status quo. And so President Abbas and I had very extensive discussions about how we could help to promote a better approach to Gaza.
Tragedy with the flotillas? Malignant malarkey! The flotillas were a planned provocation, intended to produce bodies to be paraded before the t.v. cameras. The Muslims set up a lose/lose situation for Israel. Israel had two options, neither of them good. She could let the flotillas through, ending the blockade and insuring the delivery of larger, more powerful missiles from Iran -- missiles which would do devastating damage to her cities. Or she could seize the ships, and be forced to kill terrorists, posing as humanitarian aid workers in the process. Give them a military victory or a propaganda victory. Israel wisely chose the latter.
The Jews landed on the ship armed with paint ball guns. They were besieged by terrorists swinging steel bars and plunging knives into them. The Jews were forced to use their side arms. For this, the hypocrites condemn Israel.
The Security Council condemned Israel for defending herself. If we had a President instead of a traitor, that resolution would have been vetoed. Anyone with a scintilla of morality would condemn the Muslims for perpetrating their provocation.
The facts are out. We saw video coverage of the swinging bars. We saw pictures of bloodied Jews with stab wounds. We saw the terrorists chanting Kaibar, the name of an Oasis where Moe had the village chief tortured to death and took his widow as a sex slave. We heard one of them say that they would obtain one of two good outcomes: "Gaza or martyrdom". Why waste time and treasure on an a biased investigation with a predetermined unjust outcome?
The only rational approach to Gaza and the West Bank is to remove the illegal occupiers. Get those Muslims out of there immediately!
We agree that Israelis have the right to prevent arms from entering into Gaza that can be used to launch attacks into Israeli territory. But we also think that it is important for us to explore new mechanisms so that we can have goods and services, and economic development, and the ability of people to start their own businesses, and to grow the economy and provide opportunity within Gaza.
When they put saltpeter in bags labeled "sugar", they make trust impossible. Israel can not afford to allow them to import the raw material for rocket fuel. Every item in every load must be inspected for dual use materials. Anything less is suicidal. Falestinians must abandon their quest for genocide or suffer the consequences. Our politicians must quit blaming Israel for the faults of her enemy. If you want economic development in Gaza, get the Muslims out of there and replace them with Jews.
And so we are going to be working hand in hand to make sure that we come up with a better approach, and urge Israel to work with all parties involved -- Egypt, the Palestinian Authority, and the international community -- to find a resolution to this issue.
Israel can only resolve this issue by doing to her enemies what they are trying to do to her. The only rational alternative to break their bond of slavery to Allah, and nobody has the guts to approach that problem.
In the meantime, the United States -- which is already the biggest humanitarian aid donor in Gaza -- is going to be announcing an additional $400 million in assistance for housing, school construction, business development -- not only in Gaza, but also in the West Bank, because we think it’s important for us to reaffirm once again our commitment to improving the day-to-day lives of ordinary Palestinians.
The ultimate fool's errand: give the enemy money for infrastructure construction, money that will be siphoned off to buy rocket fuel & explosives. Then, the Jews will retaliate, destroying the new infrastructure. While we are up to our eyeballs in national debt, Obama throws $400 million down the sewer. We should flush him instead.
Now, what we also discussed, though, and what we will continue to work on over the next several months is the fact that not only is the status quo with respect to Gaza unsustainable, the status quo with respect to the Middle East is unsustainable. It is time for us to go ahead and move forward on a two-state solution that will affirm the needs of Israeli citizens and will affirm the needs of Palestinian -- Palestinians who are desperate for a homeland.
"Palestinian" means Jew. "Palestine" is a linguistic corruption of a name imposed on Israel & Judea by the Roman Empire after a rebellion in ad 70. Israel is the Jewish homeland, not Arab homeland. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, not of some imaginary "Palestine". Those so called "Palestinians" are undifferentiated Arabs, nothing special. They have no special rights and Israel owes them nothing whatsoever. They do not want a homeland, they want the destruction of Israel. I tire of the repetition of the false narrative of Falestine.
We have had very productive proximity talks. Senator Mitchell -- who is here, I think standing in the back -- has been very active, working with both the Palestinians and the Israelis to try to start moving this process forward. And I want to thank President Abbas for participating in these proximity talks even under some difficult circumstances. He has shown courage and tenacity in wanting to resolve this issue. And we believe that with Israelis and the Palestinian Authority coming together, making clear that a peaceful, non-violent solution that recognizes both the security needs of Israel as well as the legitimate aspirations of Palestinians is the right way to go, can yield real progress in the coming months.
Remember Oslo? What was gained? What part of their obligations did the Falestinians fulfill? Remember Wye River ? What was gained? And the Roadmap to Hell, what good has it accomplished?
There is nothing to discuss except the time of the Muslim's departure from Israel and whether they are going home or to Hell. Thank Abbas for talking, after his refusal to concede anything and his ever escalating demands?
There is no peaceful non-violent solution to genocidal aggression. There are no "legitimate aspirations" of Falestinians. They aspire only to genocide, politicide and complete world conquest.
It’s important that we understand the sense of urgency that the Palestinian people feel in this process. Obviously you’ve got organizations like Hamas that have not recognized Israel, have not renounced violence, who are calling for a different approach. And we think it’s important that, given President Abbas’s commitment to a peaceful diplomatic solution to these issues, and I think the desire of people both in Israel and Palestine -- Palestinian Territories for a peaceful solution, that we move forward. And the United States is going to put its full weight behind those efforts.
There never was, is not now and never will be any such commitment to "a peaceful diplomatic solution". The United States, under the treason of Barack Hussein Obama, is putting its full weight behind the drive to destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews.
I did share with President Abbas, in order for us to be successful in these next several months, that both sides have to create an environment, a climate, that is going to be conducive to an actual breakthrough. And that means on the Israeli side, curbing settlement activity and recognizing some of the progress that has been made by the Palestinian Authority when it comes to issues like security. It means on the Palestinian side -- and I was very frank with President Abbas that we have to continue to make more progress on both security as well as incitement issues.
The English language does not contain any execrations sufficient to communicate the dimensions and intensity of my outrage; my contempt and detestation for the imbecillic spew of lies from that conniving traitor. Jewish settlements in the Jewish homeland are not the obstacle to peace. Islamic doctrine is the obstacle to peace. There is no progress to recognize; never was and never will be. Abbas will never do anything effective to curb missile launches & suicide bombings. Abbas will never stop the incitement and inculcation of hatred. Only a damn fool has such expectations. Only a traitor pretends that they are realistic.
And if we can over the next several months try to lift up what are the honest and legitimate concerns of both sides and if both Palestinians and Israelis can recognize that they have a common interest in moving off of what has been this dead end, then I believe that potentially we can make significant progress before the end of the year.
God help us, we elected a traitor! No truth can pass his lips. Only Israel has "honest and legitimate concerns".
Bare Naked Islam embedded this video in an article about the Stop The Mosque Rally in NYC, this video illustrates media bias in favor of Islam. The interviewer frequently interrupted Pam Geller rather than allow her to complete her statements. Due to the soft and rapid speech of the interviewer I was not able to get the name of the lying Muslim. This is from the Faces of Faith feature on CNN.
The interview with Pamela Geller begins approximately two minutes into this 12: 52 video. This is one of those videos that must be seen to be appreciated fully. Watch the interviewer's facial expressions. It is obvious from her expression and tone of voice that she is adversarial toward Geller. She interrupts before Geller can complete her answers. I believe that the interviewer succeeded in rattling Geller, pushing her off balance so that she was not able to make her usual articulate presentation. I will emphasize the questions with bold face, block quoting the answers and leaving my comments full width. Due to rapid speech, cross talk and poor typing skills, this transcript may contain errors, it will not be word for word perfect.
Bold underlined text is linked to my sources. Links will open in a new tab or window.
We understand that there is a protest today that you are leading, what exactly does your group hope to accomplish today and why are you against the building of Cordoba House, this Muslim and cultural community center?
Well, Ground Zero is a war memorial, its a burial ground, and this Mosque is offensive; its humiliating, its demeaning to the three thousand innocent victims who lost their lives. Without Islam this attack would never have happened. And we are rallying at Ground Zero, at the corner of Liberty and and Church to show the public outcry and we are asking that they be sensitive and tolerant and responsive to this overwhelming ah dissent to this Mosque. the latest polls show that America is against this Mosque. to build a shrine to the ideology which inspired this jihadist attack is insulting, it is...
At this point the interviewer made her first interruption to insert a canned response from the Imam of Cordoba Housed. The Cordoba House project is a symbol of Islamic supremacy. Muslims built a Mosque on Jerusalem's Temple Mount, and deny that the Temples ever existed there, claiming the site for themselves exclusively. Their attitude is supremacism, it is arrogant AssWholliness, totally unacceptable to civilized people. Recent riots were caused by similar conflicting claims over holy sites. You might remember hearing about Ayodhya. The Wikipedia entry will refresh your memory.
Another clause needs to be brought forward: "we are asking that they be sensitive and tolerant and responsive". Geller is sticking it in the left winger's eye. Islam is intolerant and unresponsive. In the Muslim world view, we must tolerate Islam, Muslims are privileged to kill us.
I want to read a response here from the Imam of the Mosque and cultural center because they put this out here and they want people like you and others who are criticizing them to understand what is going to take place in this facility. And they say that the Cordoba House seeks to create a community center where all people, Muslims, Jews, Christians and those of every faith can gather in a spirit of honor, respect and peaceful coexistence. And they go on to say that We cannot think of a better expression to promote the peaceful values of our faith than the Cordoba House, where American Muslims stand together with fellow citizens to condemn extremism and terror. It is a project to honor those people who were harmed on September 11th. Why do you object when they say you know, that's not correct what you are saying, this center is not about promoting some sort of hateful ideology, its quite the opposite?
First of all, that statement is deception because it is a Mosque, and only Muslims can pray ...
What's wrong with that?
It is a Mosque, and only Muslims can pray in a Mosque. The only time non-Muslims are allowed in a Mosque is if perhaps they would be able to convert. There is no plurality, there is no tolerance here...
Well thats not true because the Imam says that they would actually welcome people of various faiths to go and check this out and you can, as a non-Muslim, I'm a non-Muslim, I've been to a Mosque before - if you are invited as a guest to go as long as you are respectful...
Right--you're invited to go for proselytizing but it is not-there is no plurality in a Mosque . My question is: why there? How can it possibly be seen as outreach to build a Mosque at the war memorial that is Ground Zero, how ? How could that be perceived, that is a kick in the head, I don't understand how it can be turned into this idea of outreach when it is the opposite . It is a triumph it is triumphal, we know that the Islamic pattern is to build gigantic Mosques on the cherished sites of conquered lands. We know that this is Islamic history...
Geller is trying to reinforce the concept of Mosques supplanting temples after becoming rattled and selecting the wrong word to inform us that Muslims invite us to Mosques in order to pull the wool over our eyes and, if possible, begin the process of converting us. Once again, the interviewer jumps in to prevent the completion of the thought.
Miss Geller, I'd like to ask you I'd like to ask you there are obviously Muslims scholars and Muslims who disagree with you but also President Bush who made this point time and time again when he reached out andsaid "look we've gotta go after those who attacked Americans on 9/11 --Al-Qaeda " certainly not moderate Muslims and not the faith of Islam, that there is a distinction, there is a difference and if people don't understand it its out of ignorance or misunderstanding. How do you counter that point if even President Bush said that what you're saying is not true?
Shrub said that "Islam is a great religion of peace". What makes him an expert? Who died and made him god? In fact, like Clinton & Obama, he is a damn liar. Peace, to Islam, is the condition of the world after they have finished conquering it. Only those who read Islam's canon know that peace and justice are fruits of conquest. Fitna prevails until Islam rules the world. Muslims attack kuffar because Moe told them that Allah commanded them to, promising eternal bliss in the celestial carnal house and threatening eternal torment in the fire of Hell as his carrot and stick incentives. Geller can't answer this way, if she did it would be her last interview, but look what she said.
I counter that point by saying: read the Qur'an, read the hadith, read the sira, there are some fifteen thousand...
Well, they have countered that as well and say that Islam ...its a perversion of Islam ... its a faith of peace?
Those who say that are Gd'd liars! There is no truth in there false assertions of passivity & perversion. They can not explain why the "religion of peace" has, in its scripture, sanctification of conquest, genocide & terrorism nor why it has rules for distributing spoils of war. They'd black ball Geller if she responded as I do.
Yes, I understand but the prime Minister of Turkey said "there is no extreme Islam, there is no moderate Islam, Islam is Islam. there have been fifteen thousand Islamic attacks since 9/11 and it is inspired by the threat doctrine. We have to deal with it. Clearly a better idea would be to build a center dedicated to expunging the Qur'an of the violent texts that inspire Jihad. Every jihadist attack has the imprimatur of a Muslim cleric, I mean, this is a fact. We can't re-write reality, we have to see what is, have to deal with whats in front of us or how are you going to change things ? ...
This is what happens when they get you po'd, anger interferes with clear, concise expression. Threat doctrine is a military term, it really does not belong in this context. Islamic aggression is primarily inspired by the Qur'an's Surah Al-Anfal & Surah At-Taubah. The hadith which confirm and exemplify them are codified and explained in Riyad us-Saliheen Book 11, Chapter 234. Wasn't there something Geller said you should read?
Miss Geller, how do you counter the reality that there are thousands of Mosques across the United States and they are not points or symbols of jihad or hate?
We know from research done by SANE that four out of five Mosques preach hate and preach incitement to violence, we know this--as I said, its part of the Qur'anic text. And I think it is deeply offensive to build a Mosque on the sacred grounds of 9/11. There is a piece of the plane in that building and I think what we need to do- we are going to file a suit with the federal government to designate that building as a war memorial as a historic landmark, like Gettysburg, like Pearl Harbor . There is a piece of that plane in that building and to pray next to that is repugnant to any decent American, any Muslim of conscience, let me tell you something, I received emails from Muslims who don't believe a Mosque should be there.
It ain't the act of prayer, Pamela, its what they are praying to: the demon whose imperatives inspired the accursed abomination.
We're going to talk to a Muslim who has another point of view, but before you go, have you read the Qur'an ?
Yes I have and I strongly recommend Robert Spencer's The Infidel's guide to the Qur'an and Ibn Warraq and Wafa Sultan and Noni Darwish, these are books from former Muslims that must be read by the American people to understand what it is they are facing. They just arrested two more jihadis they were US citizens, they were arrested at JFK Airport. You have to understand the threat doctrine if you are going to address the threat.
Is there a portion-are there passages in the Qur'an that promotes what we saw al-Qaeda do on 9/11?
There are, but that Muslim won't admit it. I provided links to the most important such verses within my comments on the interview with Pamela Geller above.
Well first let me thank you for having me on and letting me provide what I call a Muslim perspective. Number one- a few points I want to make real quick. Unfortunately, there is a lot of erroneous translations that are out there. What we have to do is ask ourselves what do they hope to accomplish with this protest today against the Mosque? Asking the government to stop it--well that would be wholly unconstitutional its one of the first things I learned in law school, because it would be a violation of equal protection number one and number two, of the establishment clause of the First Amendment, something I learned in kindergarten as well. In America we have freedom of religion. Point number two, this is a fringe group. A lot of family members of 9/11 as well as public officials and regular Americans who understand American ideals support this initiative because they understand two crucial points: fringe groups like Pamela's- what they're doing number one- spreading the erroneous misinterpretation that the terrorists like al-Qaeda want to spread about Islam and number two: they're simultaneously feeding the propaganda that al-Qaeda uses to recruit which is that America is anti-Muslim. now Miss Geller and her group may be anti-Muslim, but the rest of America for the most part, is not. As far as where it says
http://www.quranbrowser.com/ displays a table of ten parallel translations for easy comparison. The words vary, with the exception of one polemical translation, the meanings do not. http://www.openburhan.net/ will display eighteen English translations if you click the ayeh number. It also displays a word by word breakdown, with links to an Arabic/Engish dictionary.
Besides al-taqiyya and kitman, as a lawyer, he should know that government interference would be blocked by the free exercise clause, not the establishment clause. He should also know that Islam is a standing violation of the establishment clause because it demands that temporal and spiritual power be in the same hands. Islam does not recognize separation of church and state. Islam is a lie. Muslims are liars. This is a wake up call.
What part is Miss Geller not understanding here because she clearly has a point of view here that she feels threatened and she feels that this is going to be dangerous to have this Mosque in that area. What do you want to say to her ?
Well, lets examine why she's threatened. Number one, she's talking about what the Qur'an teaches. There's 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, now there is admittedly probably tens of thousands of al-Qaeda members or members of other terrorist organizations; they have nothing to do with the teachings of Islam. She keeps equating al-Qaeda and their attack against this country to what Islam teaches. I'll take her to my family in Egypt, they'll fill her with food and take her shopping and they'll show her that the vast majority of Muslims around the word and not just in this country follow the teachings of the Qur'an, which state for example, in Chapter 5, verse 32: killing one innocent person is like killing all people saving one innocent life is like saving all people. or another verse that says let there be no compulsion in religion . Another verse that says let there be no tyranny, this is what Islam really teaches when you look at the accurate majority translations that are out there. There are thousands of Mosques already in this country. These are the teachings of Jesus and Abraham and Muhammad That they teach in Sunday schools, its what I learned in Sunday school growing up. So this Mosque that they're going to be building two blocks away from the World Trade Center- lets remember that number one, a lot of Muslims died at the World Trade Center Number two, this is going to be interfaith and open to a lot of non-Muslims to use the pool, use the exhibit facilities, to engage in dialog, just like a YMCA would, and yes, Muslims are going to go pray there because there are over a thousand Muslims who work down town who need a place to pray.
The Qur'an does not teach Jihad, it commands it! Get that straight for once. By the way, argumentum ad numerum and argumentum ad populum are logical fallacies, a lawyer should know that and avoid using them.
"Nothing to do with the teachings of Islam"? How about Allah's imperatives: "fight them until...only Allah is worshiped", "fight those who", "kill them wherever you find them", "I will cast terror", "Allah cast terror" Nothing at all to do with terrorism, nothing at all. Yeah, right. Snake feces!
He quotes 5:32, but not 5:33, why is that? Only because the latter verse details the punishment prescribed for those who "wage war against Allah". Ibn Kathir defines "wage war" as including disbelief. Got a clue yet? If you don't believe in Allah they can crucify you. Islam is a lie. Muslims are liars. Kitman is lying by obfuscation. These apologists for Islam are quick, slick & glib and they leave behind a lump of snake excrement. When you believe what they say, you eat that excrement.
2:256 says there is no compulsion in religion. 8:39 says "Fight them until...only Allah is worshiped.". Such conflicts are solved by naskh. Later revelations abrogate earlier revelations. The eighth surah was revealed later, 8:39 abrogates 2:256. There is something else the slick lawyer concealed from you. 3:110 says that Muslims are " the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind". That ayeh is explained by Sahih Buhari 6.60.80 The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
So there is no tyranny in Islam? That word is not found in the Hilali & Khan translation, but this is, in 33:36: It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision.
"A lot of Muslims died at the World Trade Center", 23 out of more than 2700; How is that relevant to the fact that the accursed abomination was inspired by the Qur'an & hadith?
Let me ask you this, she makes the point, she says that this'll be a very important symbol to those who would want to do harm because its close to ground zero do you think that she has any kind of is this point valid at all?
Not at all. The more she talks the more its clear that she does not know what she's talking about. This Mosque is a symbol of the 1.5 billion who respect peace I mean, remember that people go around in the Muslim world saying "peace be unto you" as hello and goodbye. Let alone the Millions of Muslim Americans who including myself, including my brother in law who is an officer in the Air Force stationed in Iraq right now, teachers, doctors, these are peace loving American people, their relatives overseas are peace loving Muslims, This Mosque will provide a place to pray just like several other Mosques in New York City does, for her to say that its offensive is what's offensive to us because there is nothing offensive about our religion, Mosques are no different from synagogues and churches and nowhere in this country would someone go out there and fight against the creation of a church in downtown Manhattan so I mean its really just offensive and there's a lot of ignorance out there and the days when she can go out there and make these untrue statements about the religion are over. We now have native born, English speaking American citizens just like my self with law degrees who can finally go out there on shows like yours that are nice enough to give us an opportunity to respond and say that she's on the wrong side of history where .....
I know what Geller was talking about because I have read the Qur'an & hadith and a significant sample of Islamic exegeses & jurisprudence. Geller knows what she was talking about, so does that lying Muslim.
If Muslims respect peace, it is as the outcome of Islamic conquest. Islam divides the world into two camps: Dar ul-Islam and Dar ul-harb. Dar ul-harb is the house of war, it is wherever Islam is not yet in control. If you harbor any doubt about this, read 13:41.
The Mosque is a symbol of Islamic supremacy. Where Allah's writ runs, dhimmis are not allowed to build higher than Muslim structures and they are not permitted to build new churches. .
"Peace be upon you", ain't that sweet. Moe said something about greeting Jews & Christians, it is in Sahih Muslim 26.5389: "Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it".
"Because there is nothing offensive about our religion"? Islamic law says that:
The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
But there is nothing offensive about Islam, no, nothing at all. Islam is a lie. Muslims are liars. Wake up, wise up and rise up!
In bed with the enemy. Punish our friends and protect those who want us dead.
Such is the farce that is the Barack Hussein Obama administration.
And now, Israel intelligence has CONNECTED THE BARACADE-BREAKING FLOATILLA WITH THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE!
Read WorldNetDaily's entire story here and learn how Obama advisors met with Muslims from a group which has been named 'un-indicted co-conspirators' in previous anti-American shenannigans to plan this fiasco.
Obama is CLEARLY WORKING WITH OUR ENEMIES.
This calls for IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS TO BEGIN ON MONDAY!!!!
SHAME ON YOU, OBAMA! You SCUMBAG!
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS ANTI-AMERICAN AND ANTI-ISRAEL BEHAVIOR!
Bare Naked Islam posted this excellent video in which Pat Condell, the British atheist curmudgeon, expresses his outrage at Islamic arrogance and American political cowardice.
Pat Condell's rapid fire delivery does not allow much time to let critical concepts sink in, so I have transcribed his remarks. This probably is not word for word perfect, but it is close enough for our purposes.
All you Americans. whov'e been following the Islamization of Europe from afar with horrified incredulity if any of you are still nursing the cozy illusion that it could never happen in your country, its time to wake up and rub those sleepy eyes because the moment of truth has arrived. In case you haven't heard there's a plan afoot to build a thirteen story Islamic Center and Mosque a few yards from ground zero in New York. A plan that's been enthusiastically welcomed by politicians and civic leaders eager to show how tolerant they are at other people's expense. Is it possible to be astonished but not surprised ? Apparently its not enough that nearly three thousand innocent people had to lose their lives in a hideous act of religious mass murder but now their memory has to be insulted as well and the religion that murdered them allowed to build a. towering triumphalist Mosque on the ground where they died.
Is America losing its mind? It says a lot about the people behind this scheme that they have the bad taste even to propose building a Mosque in such a place, but to describe it as they have as a tribute to the victims is beyond bad taste and shows a profound contempt for those who died. It would be hard to imagine a more provocative gesture short of standing on their graves and burning the American flag.
Yet, how typical of Islam, with its own hair-trigger sensitivity to the slightest imagined insult to do something so arrogant and so insensitive.
Its gonna cost a hundred million dollars to build this thing, but nobody's prepared to say where the money is coming from. We do know that the Saudis fund a lot of Mosque building in the west when they are not busy trying to stamp out freedom of speech at the United Nations or telling Fox News what to broadcast so I guess we'll all be paying for it every time we start the car.
You know, it seems to me a much more appropriate place for a Mosque in New York would be the United Nations building itself, because that organization has become so Islamo-friendly in recent years that frankly I'm surprised it doesn't already have a minaret.
You know, I'm not even American but it makes me sick to my stomach to think that Islam is gonna be allowed anywhere near ground zero because 9/11 could never have happened if not for Islam and its teachings and its doctrine of jihad and its false promise of an impossible afterlife without which none of those gullible lunatics would have been persuaded to carry out such an insane act. And also because it wasn't just an attack on America but on all of us in the civilized world. As were the bombings in London, in Madrid, in Bali, the shootings in Mumbai and everywhere else the religion of peace decides it doesn't like the way people do things.
Any religion that endorses violence is incapable of delivering spiritual enlightenment. How obvious does that have to be? And it has no right even to call itself a religion Without the shield of religion to hide behind, Islam would be banned in the civilized world as a political ideology of hate and we have no obligation to make allowances for it anymore than we do for Nazism.
Its a bigger threat to our freedom than Nazism ever was. Yes, both are totalitarian and both divide the world unnecessarily into us and them, the pure and the impure and both make no secret of their desire to exterminate the Jews. But we were all more or less on the same side against the Nazis whereas the Islamonazis have got plenty of friends among people in the West who ought to know better.
American politicians now regularly make the kind of dhimmi noises about diversity as an excuse for Islamization, the same kind of thing that we've become so depressingly familiar with in Europe.
Its true that diversity has been good for America, its been the making of that country but American diversity has always been grounded in respect for the values- the individual liberties that make America what it is. Islam rejects those values and thats the difference and its a very important difference. Islam despises what America is, it rejects everything America stands for including freedom and diversity and any Muslim who denies that is a liar.
The organization behind this scheme is called the Cordoba Initiative and the building is to be called Cordoba House. And this is because Cordoba or Cordova is the city in southern Spain where Muslims built their first great Mosque at the start of and as a symbol of their conquest of Spain.
The ground zero Mosque is intended to serve the same purpose in America. Building Mosques on conquered sacred ground is standard practice, its what Islam has always done to assert its supremacy and that is whats happening here. And of course they know how insulting it is, how offensive it is; are you kidding? Why do you think they chose this site as close as possible to ground zero? Or do you think that that was just an accident? And they also know that once its built it will be there forever as a permanent affront to all Americans -- gloating in triumph and a major bridgehead in the ongoing stealth jihad. Thats how the Muslim world will see it and thats how they'll be encouraged to see it, and to be fair to them, thats exactly what it will be, confirming what they've always suspected: America is a soft country--a decadent country crippled by political correctness; confused and guilt ridden, with no backbone and no pride.
They plan to open it next year, on September the eleventh, the tenth anniversary of the atrocity. Is that tasteless enough for you? I'm surprised they haven't organized a 757 fly past.
But you know, it doesn't have to be this way. Here in London, we had a similar situation just recently when they wanted to build a gigantic Mosque to overshadow the Olympic games. Public opinion put a stop to that and public opinion can put a stop to this disgraceful plan as well and it can tell this group and the politicians who support them that enough is enough and that this is one insult too far and that America is a big country and there is plenty of room for them to build their offensive Mosque, if they have to, somewhere else, somewhere perhaps more appropriate to the spirit of their religion like the Arizona desert of Death Valley. Peace and God bless the Kuffar.
Evidently Pat suffers from cognitive dissonance, the victims of 9/11 were not murdered, they are victims of jihad. They were killed in a military attack upon civilians. The main religious component of the act is the religious obligation to carry out attacks on kuffar, which is classified as fard al-kifaya: binding upon all eligible male Muslims until a sufficient number have reported to the battlefront. The minor religious component is the pronunciation of takbir while slitting throats. "Allah-hu Akhbar" means "Allah is greater". Shouting it during an attack is one way of instilling terror into their victims.
Islam is not a religion, it is a way of life: intra-species predation. You will not likely come to a full realization of this until you read the Qur'an and hadith. I have documented the most important verses and sayings in another blog post: Islam's Mercenary Mission. Islam has a religious component, which is used to motivate the attackers and rationalize their depredations.
Pat mentioned another important issue: triumphalism. Islam convinces its acolytes that Allah has promised them victory, that they will conquer and dominate the entire world. Quranic verses contributing to triumphalism include: 2:137,3:123, 3:125, 3:126, 3:127, 3:160, 5:52, 13:41, 14:15, 17:6, 40:51 and61:9. Ibn Kathir's Tafsir confirms the obvious; the titles alone should be sufficient to enlighten the observant reader.
In order to promote and perpetuate the wars that provided his income, Moe had Allah command the Muslims to conquer the entire world. The jihad imperatives are found in 8:39 and 9:29. To motivate Muslims to go to war, Moe promised them eternity in a celestial bordello and threatened them with eternal damnation if they refused.
One of Pat's statements stands out above the rest, I want to make sure that you understand it.
Any religion that endorses violence is incapable of delivering spiritual enlightenment. How obvious does that have to be? And it has no right even to call itself a religion Without the shield of religion to hide behind, Islam would be banned in the civilized world as a political ideology of hate and we have no obligation to make allowances for it anymore than we do for Nazism.
Islam does not just endorse violence, it ordains it. Killing and being killed fighting in Allah's cause is the basis of the relationship between Allah and his slaves. Our First Amendment forbids congress from making any law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Misidentification as a religion shields Islam from prohibitive legislation. Jihad, genocide & terrorism are intrinsic sacraments of Islam, it can not be practiced without them. Islamic law requires a minimum of one ghazwat in every year. This is how Al-Shafi'i interpreted that law:
Why in Hell would a free nation allow that demonic ideology to gain a foothold on its soil?
Construction of Mosques and minarets is symbolic of Islamic Supremacism. Wherever Islam conquers, it tears down temples, supplanting them with Mosques as a symbol of supremacy. To make this issue more clear to you I will quote two provisions of Islamic law from Reliance of the Traveller, Book O, Chapter 11.5, which lists seven restrictions on conquered Jews & Christians.
-5- may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims' buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;
-7- and are forbidden to build new churches.
There is no good reason for accepting this insult. We must rise up and condemn it and the politicians who permit it. Stand up like Pat Condell and let your voice be heard.
I share this video with you as Sarah Thomas shared it with me on Facebook. I exhort you to watch closely and listen carefully, enjoy, smile, shed a tear as I did and share it with others.
Truly I tell you that the Falestinians have learned their lesson from the Communists and implemented it with great expertise. They have disguised wolves in lambskins and pulled the wool over the eyes of the world.
Few, few indeed are the intelligent and perceptive minority who see through the disguise and recognize the predator behind the propaganda storm. I hope and pray that this excellent video will expand their number. The time has come to proclaim the fact that there is no truth whatsoever in the Falestinian narrative.
Who will tell us the name of the first king of the Falestinians? Who will tell us the name of their last President? Who will reveal their distinctive language, nomenclature of their currency & cuisine? Exactly when was Jerusalem their capitol city?
July 11, '02, Joseph Farah published under that title, in World Net Daily, a revelation of truth difficult for many to accept. He lifted the wool, exposing the fraud perpetrated by the propagandists. One quote in that article stands out above the rest for the clarity of its revelation.
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. ...[Zahir Muhsein, P.L.O. Executive Cmte.]
Moral men can not, apprised of this fatal fact, remain silent. We must expose it to the eyes and ears of the world. There is a foundation under the big lie, seldom exposed to view. [Emphasis added.]
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: It will turn out that you will be armed troops, one is Syria, one in the Yemen and one in Iraq. Ibn Hawalah said: Choose for me, Apostle of Allah, if I reach that time. He replied: Go to Syria, for it is Allah's chosen land, to which his best servants will be gathered but if you are unwilling, go to your Yemen, and draw water from your tanks, for Allah has on my account taken special charge of Syria and its people.
Moe prophesied that the Muslims would invade and conquer Iraq, Syria & Yemen. He put a high priority on the conquest of the Roman Province of Syria, saying that Allah had, on his account taken special charge of that province and its people. Let us see exactly what that special charge entails.
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Completion of genocide against Israel is a prerequisite for the opening of the gates of Paradise. That hadith is quoted in the Charter of Hamas, Art. 7. The time has come for moral men to wake up, wise up and rise up disrespectfully demanding honesty, truthfulness and courage from the demagogues & con men we have elected to lead our nations. Do not vote for anyone who refuses to acknowledge the truth about Islam & Falestine!
The News Mail reports that U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has demanded the lifting of Israel's blockade of Gaza. A few choice quotes:
"Everything must be done to prevent another incident of this kind,"
"All concerned should act with a sense of care and responsibility, and in accordance with international law."
Why did you allow the first incident? Why did you not send diplomats to stop the launch of the flotilla? Why did you fail to send international forces to turn those boats back?
International law says that Israel has a right to enforce a blockade against her belligerent enemies. Sending that flotilla was an act of provocation, by design; the obvious intent was to obtain a propaganda advantage against Israel. Israel warned the flotilla, directing them to turn back or divert to a port for inspection. Instead of complying, the provocateurs refused to divert and persisted in their attempt to break the blockade.
At this sensitive time, it is essential to avoid provocations.
It was essential to avoid provocations at the time of the flotilla's launching. You stood by wringing your hands.
This tragedy only highlights the serious underlying problem. The long-running closure imposed on the Gaza Strip is counter-productive, unsustainable and wrong. It punishes innocent civilians. It must be lifted by the Israeli authorities immediately.
Israel's blockade is not the problem. The problem is Islam's demonic demand for politicide & genocide. Islam will never tolerate the existence of Israel. Her recovery of a tiny fragment of her ancient patrimony proves Allah to be an impotent idol. No Muslim can accept that. That blockade is the only tool Israel has to slow the flow of weapons and the raw materials for making them, into Gaza.
Speaking more broadly, we must advance the proximity talks facilitated by the United States. Despite the latest developments, it is vital for the talks to continue.
No amount of talking will solve the basic problem: Islamic intolerance and aggression. There are only two possible solutions, choose one.
Break the faith of the Muslims, cause them to abandon Islam.
Move them beyond rocket range of Israel. Hell might be far enough.
This week's events underscore the urgency of real progress in the Middle East peace process. I commend President Abbas's courageous decision to continue, and Arab partners for their flexibility.
Courageous decision to do what? To make outrageous, escalating demands without ever meeting any of Fallestine's existing commitments. They still inculcate hatred in their children. They still broadcast incitement in their mass media. They still glorify terrorists. The only thing any reasonable person has to say to them is "go to Hell". As long as they want genocide and politicide, there will be no peace.
Intelligent and rational people look beneath the surface, for the actual roots of this existential conflict. Those roots are in Islam's cannon of scripture, tradition & exegeses.
Allah commanded Muslims to wage war against Jews. He said that he would continually send someone to torment the Jews. Moe said that he owned the earth and wished to expel the Jews. He said that Allah had, on his account, taken special interest in the Levant and made its conquest a high priority. He told the Muslims that they could not enter Paradise until they complete the genocide of the Jews.
Allah promised the Muslims that he would give them dominion over the world. He promised victory. He promised them a 2:1 kill ratio, that they would overcome armies twice their size. Israel's continued existence after several existential attacks proves Allah to be an impotent idol. That is something Muslims can not tolerate. They can never allow Israel to live in peace no matter what concessions she might make.
Allah commanded Muslims to conquer and subjugate the entire world. he threatened them with eternal damnation if they refuse. He promised them eternal bliss in the celestial bordello if they make the effort.
The feeble minded mental midgets we elected to bring peace to the world, keep this nation safe, and those Israel elected to keep her safe are incapable of connecting the data points and discovering the obvious conclusion: that peace is impossible so long as Muslims believe in and attempt to implement Allah's commandments.
As Secretary-General, I stand ready to take any necessary action, and will continue my personal engagement to contribute to a resolution of the conflict.
If that was said with any sincerity, you would sit down and shut up without making any of those annoyingly stupid statements. Instead, you would begin a crusade to eliminate Islam from the face of the earth.
Memri has a video clip of a pep rally aboard the flotilla. The terrorists were chanting a reminder of the conquest of Khaibar. At the end of the clip, one woman declares that they will have one of two good outcomes: martyrdom or Gaza.
Bare Naked Islam has a slide show of weapons taken from militants on the flotilla please take a close look at it and read the accompanying text. This video, which I found in that same post, shows the terrorists preparing to receive the Israeli boarding party. Note the gas masks, rods and slingshots.
Another BNI post has video of the attack. If you have any respect for Obama, Clinton & Moon after watching this, you are morally defective; the world would be better off without you.
Outlook India reports that the Pakistani jurist who ordered that Facebook be blocked has ordered the Foreign Ministry to direct the permanent Ambassador to the U.N. to submit a resolution complaining of the Everybody Draw Muhammad Day page on Facebook. The ban has been lifted, but could be reimposed at the next hearing June 15.
The article included these titillating tidbits from the order.
"The canons of Islam do not prohibit or limit any individual’s right to freedom of expression and speech.
Rather it emulates the phrase, ‘Your liberty ends where the nose of the other persons starts’, meaning thereby that any right to freedom of expression and speech of one person would not prejudice the right of self-respect and dignity of the other person," the judge said in his order.
"The core issue involved in the instant matter was the publication of blasphemous material which was viewed as a deliberate attempt to malign the very holy and sanctimonious stature of Prophet (Mohammed) and any regulation made for the protection of the deeply sensitive and emotional sentiments should not be viewed as (being) in conflict with an individual’s universally accepted rights of freedom, expressions and speech,"
The canons of Islam expressly forbid any negative expression about Islam, its doctrines and sanctities. We turn to Reliance of the Traveller, Book O, Chapter 8 to view the penalty for apostasy. Apostasy carries a death sentence.
O8.1
When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
O8.2
In such a case, it is obligatory for the caliph (A: or his representive) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.
O8.7 lists a set of acts which entail apostasy. Items 4,5,6,7,14, 15, 16 & 19 are relevant. Saying anything negative about Allah, Moe and their system gets your head lopped off.
O8.7: Acts that Entail Leaving Islam
(O: Among the things that entail apostasy from Islam (may Allah protect us from them) are:
-1- to prostrate to an idol, whether sarcastically, out of mere contrariness, or in actual conviction, like that of someone who believes the Creator to be something that has originated in time. Like idols in this respect are the sun or moon, and like prostration is bowing to other than Allah, if one intends reverence towards it like the reverence due to Allah;
-2- to intend to commit unbelief, even if in the future. And like this intention is hesitating whether to do so or not: one thereby immediately commits unbelief;
-3- to speak words that imply unbelief such as ``Allah is the third of three,'' or ``I am Allah''-unless one's tongue has run away with one, or one is quoting another, or is one of the friends of Allah Most High (wali, def: w33) in a spiritually intoxicated state of total oblivion (A: friend of Allah or not, someone totally oblivious is as if insane, and is not held legally responsible (dis: k13.1(O:) ) ), for these latter do not entail unbelief;
-4- to revile Allah or His messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace);
-5- to deny the existence of Allah, His beginingless eternality, His endless eternality, or to deny any of His attributes which the consensus of Muslims ascribes to Him (dis: v1);
-6- to be sarcastic about Allah's name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat;
-7- to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it;
-8- to mockingly say, ``I don't know what faith is'';
-9- to reply to someone who says, ``There is no power or strength save through Allah''; ``Your saying `There's no power or strength, etc,' won't save you from hunger'';
-10- for a tyrant, after an oppressed person says, ``This is through the decree of Allah,'' to reply, ``I act without the decree of Allah'';
-11- to say that a Muslim is an unbeliever (kafir) (dis: w47) in words that are uninterpretable as merely meaning he is an ingrate towards Allah for divinely given blessings (n: in Arabic, also ``kafir'');
-12- when someone asks to be taught the Testification of Faith (Ar. Shahada, the words, ``La ilaha ill Allahu Muhammadun rasulu Llah'' (There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah) ), and a Muslim refuses to teach him it;
-13- to describe a Muslim or someone who wants to become a Muslim in terms of unbelief (kufr);
-14- to deny the obligatory character of something which by the consensus of Muslims (ijma`, def: B7) is part of Islam, when it is well known as such, like the prayer (salat) or even one rak'a from one of the five obligatory prayers, if there is no excuse (def: u2.4);
-15- to hold that any of Allah's messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent;
(n: `Ala' al-din' Abidin adds the following:
-16- to revile the religion of Islam;
-17- to believe that things in themselves or by their own nature have any causal influence independent of the will of Allah;
-18- to deny the existence of angels or jinn (def: w22), or the heavens;
-19- to be sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law;
-20- or to deny that Allah intended the Prophet's message (Allah bless him and give him peace) to be the religion followed by the entire world (dis: w4.3-4) (al-Hadiyya al-`Ala'iyya (y4), 423-24). )
Of course that could not apply to us kafiroon, could it? Chapter 11 deals with non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state; O11.10 lists five acts which violate the treaty of dhimmitude, subjecting the violator to the death penalty. Of these, the fifth item is of interest to us.
-5- or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.
Got a clue yet? The Jurist ruled that Shari'ah does not impair our right of free expression. Shari'ah explicitly contradicts his ruling. Sorry, Justice Chaudhry, you do not have a right to close off all expression that offends your tender sensibilities. You have a right to withdraw from the presence of the speaker, to change the t.v. or radio channel, or to point your web browser to a different web site. We have a Constitution which says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." [Emphasis added.] That Constitution is the supreme law of the land, it is superior to Shari'ah and to international law and to your vaunted U.N. resolutions. So, kiss off!
Some people lack extensive knowledge of the tenets of Islam. Some lack the ability and patience to vocalize their outrage. They express their negative emotion with art. Others like me have no artistic skill with which to express our outrage. We are limited to the written and spoken word as a means of expressing our outrage and sharing factual information with our fellows. American citizens have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to express what we know about Moe's War Cult. We will not be silenced.
Everybody Draw Muhammad Day June 21 is a new Facebook group with 170 supporters. It has set June 21, 2010 as the day for celebrating cartoons critical of Islam's Profit.
The new group's wall is already receiving condemnatory comments from Muslims who report urging Facebook to delete the group.
Considering the fact that the Pakistani High Court issued an order to submit a resolution to the U.N. General Assembly expressing outrage at the previous Everybody Draw Muhammad Day, this page has a limited life expectancy, enjoy it while you can.
Note the fact that another new group is advertised in the first wall post in the screen shot.