Saturday, December 27, 2008

The Projectionist

Christ Co-opted

Quoth Ema:
"If Christ were on earth today, undoubtedly he would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over ..."

President (of Iran) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
The Times Online published a full transcript.
Upon the anniversary of the birth of Jesus, Son of Mary, the Word of God, the Messenger of mercy, I would like to congratulate the followers of Abrahamic faiths, especially the followers of Jesus Christ, and the people of Britain

Congratulations

Share our joy, does he? No. Jesus was sent on a divine mission of salvation, the flower of Yahweh's plan to reconcile sinners to himself. Yahweh sent his son into the world so that he might save as many as possible. Allah had no son. Isa was only a slave & messenger. Our joy is in the knowledge of Yahweh's love & compassion and the sacrifice by which he offered salvation to us, by faith. Muslims have no such gracious salvation; they must earn it by striving hard in Allah's cause with their wealth & lives.

Messiah

The Jews were anticipating a Messiah who would lead them in revolt to throw off Rome's yoke of slavery. They received a spiritual, not a military Messiah, whom many rejected. Islam also anticipates a militant Messiah, the Madhi, a lineal descendant of Moe who will lead them in the final conquest. Guess who will be at the battlefront with the Madhi, killing the remnant of Christians & Jews? This is the joy Ahmadinejad has in Jesus. Savor it, and spew your coffee over your monitor and keyboard.
Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.

Clues for the clueless

  • fight the people for the cause of Islam
  • break the cross
  • kill swine
  • perish all religions except Islam
  • destroy the Antichrist
Poor clueless analencephalopaths. You can't buy one; you won't accept free clues. But Allah & Ibn Kathir make it plain for all who are willing to read and can comprehend. Those of us who can comprehend the written word don't need clues.
7:167. And (remember) when your Lord declared that He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. Verily, your Lord is Quick in Retribution (for the disobedient, wicked) and certainly He is Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful (for the obedient and those who beg Allah's Forgiveness).
In the future, the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah); and the Muslims, along with `Isa, son of Mary, will kill the Jews. This will occur just before the end of this world. [Eternal Humiliation placed on the Jews]
  • the Muslims
    • along with `Isa, son of Mary
      • kill the Jews
      • fight the people for the cause of Islam.
      • kill the swine
Go ahead, move your lips; sound the words out if you must. Read and re-read the hadith & tafsir until it slowly penetrates the fog that fills your cranium. Perhaps you can coax your mother to read it to you. Ahmadinejad does not share our concept of Jesus. Even so, congratulating Kuffar on their feast days is harram.

Cause of suffering

Now as human society faces a myriad of problems and a succession of complex crises, the root causes can be found in humanity's rejection of that message, in particular the indifference of some governments and powers towards the teachings of the divine Prophets, especially those of Jesus Christ.

Compare the messages!

What was Christ's message? Was it conquest? Was it genocide? Was it terror? How does his message compare to Moe's? Who, exactly has rejected Christ's message? Iran's President projects Islam's sin onto us.
If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly He would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers.
How would Christ respond to this pronouncement?
Bukhari Ch 61 # 2756: ...It is mentioned from Ibn 'Umar from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, "My provision has been placed under the shadow of my spear, and abasement and humility have been placed on the one who disobeys my command. [http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Hadith/H0002P0061.aspx]

Banner of Jihad

If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly He would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over.
Ahmadinejad is obviously projecting again, as well as co-opting Christ. His master, Moe, was a warmonger & terrorist whom Christ would surely oppose, not emulate. As I showed you above, Moe projects his own bad qualities onto Jesus.
If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly He would fight against the tyrannical policies of prevailing global economic and political systems, as He did in His lifetime. The solution to today's problems is a return to the call of the divine Prophets. The solution to these crises is to follow the Prophets - they were sent by the Almighty for the good of humanity.
Ahmadinejad has performed Dawah: he invited you to embrace Islam and emulate Moe. That invitation is a legal requirement as a prerequisite to an attack.
If tyrannical goals are repackaged in an attractive and deceptive package and imposed on nations again, the people, awakened, will stand up against them.

Cons plant clues

The surest sign of an overly confidant, narcissistic con man is the inclusion of negative confession in his speech. In that sentence, he described his own speech. He is confidant that we are too stupid to perceive the clue he has given us.
We believe, Jesus Christ will return, together with one of the children of the revered Messenger of Islam and will lead the world to love, brotherhood and justice. The responsibility of all followers of Christ and Abrahamic faiths is to prepare the way for the fulfilment of this divine promise and the arrival of that joyful, shining and wonderful age. I hope that the collective will of nations will unite in the not too distant future and with the grace of the Almighty Lord, that shining age will come to rule the earth.
  • fight the people for the cause of Islam
  • break the cross
  • kill swine
  • perish all religions except Islam
  • destroy the Antichrist
  • the Muslims, along with `Isa, son of Mary, will kill the Jews
For Chrissake, get a clue! You might find some in last year's festive greeting.

11 comments:

Ben said...

When I wrote that I take no prisoners, I meant it. Pulling punches is not my style. When my knee connects with yer jaw, yer tongue is going to suffer for it!

This post is designed with SEO in mind. Pack, now is the time to create a Stat Counter account and track this post. Its free, its easy, and it can be exciting. Some of my recent posts have been read by the U.N. H.Q., French Foreign Ministry, U.S. State Department and Saudi Ministry of Information.

We are gonna warm some eye balls, my friend, and perhaps bring some blood to the surface.

Ema Nymton said...

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I guess if volume matters, then your post sure has many key strokes.

While you were quoting statements of people, why not choose a true statement made by a person recently?

"If Christ were on earth today, undoubtedly he would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over ..."

Just out of curiosity, "if Christ were on earth today, would you listen to him and his messages (Beatitudes)?"

Or would he be list among the dirty hippy leftists socialists that you see as fools, traitors, and the enemy?

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Ben,

Your long winded posts have bumped other conversations off the current page. So again I bring up the following.

""... Yahweh's imperative to conquer was limited to Canaan. The rest of the Jewish conquests were defensive, not offensive. ..." (Love your spin on this one.)

The land of Canaan was home to people _before_ Yahweh issued the fatwa to the people of Israel to kill those living there in peace and prosperity. While Yahweh was at it, the people of Israel were allowed to enslave the women of Canaan by the same commands.

So to the people living in Canaan was this Jewish conquests defensive or offensive?

And that some how makes the war of aggression somehow different?

"... Jesus Christ did not issue any commands to conquer. ..." but oh so many 'Christians' have twisted his messages to do just that. (The Crusades during the 'Middle Ages' and the invasion of Iraq by USA under the current president are two.)

"Only an arrogant damn fool will argue otherwise in the face of relevant, verifiable facts.""

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Ben said...

Those whose vacuous position is devastated by facts will do almost anything to draw attention away from them.

Ema has resorted to argumentum ad hominem in an attempt to derail the discussion. I ain't playing that game.

This ain't about ancient Hebrew history, nor is it about deviations from orthodox Christian doctrine & practice.

Its about the very real, proximate and persistent campaign of offensive conquest sponsored by Moe and propagated by his Caliphs and companions.

There is no Christian or Jewish equivalent to "fight them until". Jesus did not declare Jihad nor did he declare it to be continuous until Judgment Day. Moe did both.

Muslims and their apologists will do any dance to distract us from the fatal facts of Islam.

Ema Nymton said...

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Ben,

You really are afraid. Don't be.

The truth is that 'they' really ain't coming after you (no matter how many countless paragraphs you type). You can go back and sleep in your closet safe in the knowledge that intelligent and capable adults are here to protect you.

One must recognize that in every confrontation, both side will have valid complaints and issues. Solving issues and problems require people to respect each other and work together to find common ground.

Your calling for the killing of followers of Islam simply because they are not believers in the teachings of Christ has not gotten you any place. Try something different. (I know your response to this will be, "They did it first.") Grow up.

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RightHooks said...

Ema, you said, "You really are afraid. Don't be.The truth is that 'they' really ain't coming after you (no matter how many countless paragraphs you type). You can go back and sleep in your closet safe in the knowledge that intelligent and capable adults are here to protect you.One must recognize that in every confrontation, both side will have valid complaints and issues. Solving issues and problems require people to respect each other and work together to find common ground."

You keep trying to play the fear card as if we are afraid...perhaps that would make you feel powerful and big like a real man, who knows. Furthermore, you would love to lull the country asleep...which makes one wonder whom your allegiance is to. And as for the 'respect', how much 'respect' did your Muslim pals show the passengers on those flights on 911? How much 'respect' did the Muslims have when they sawed off Nick Berg's head? I'm still not over that and I never will be, so deal with the fact that Islam has made very real, permanent enemies who are not afraid of them or intimidated by them in the least. Get used to it because we aren't going away.

RightHooks said...

Ben, That is one of the most potent posts I have ever read. Wow. I followed all the links and they fully supported what you were saying. I think you just threw Ema in the water wayyyyy over his head.

Ben said...

Pull yer head out, Ema, wipe the drek from yer eyes and take a long look at objective factual reality.

* Hindu slaughter estimated 40..80M
* Assyrian Genocide 750K
* Armenian Genocide 1.5M
They killed nearly 3000 in NYC & Washington. They aspire to do more.

Islam's issue is the fact that there are places where Allah's writ don't rule. They have not yet completed their mandatory world conquest. All else is persiflage.

Islam is a persistent predator, it will not quit. If it quits, it bears a curse of persisting indignity & humiliation until it "returns to its original religion".

As the cattle ranchers exterminated cougars, bears and wolves in order to increase the food supply, we need to exterminate Islam in order to make and secure peace. You can't have lambs and lions, a choice must be made.

There are three possibilities:
1. nuke them off the face of the earth
2. emancipate as many as possible from slavery to Allah and kill the recalcitrant remainder
3. suffer continued attacks until we are finally conquered and subjugated.

That ain't pleasant, but it is objective factual reality.

Thats the plan, PackSmack; drown 'em in irrefutable facts. Where the jury is rational, facts trump emotional arguments.

Ema Nymton said...

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Congratulations you have completed the circle.

Your call to, "... exterminate Islam in order to make and secure peace..." parrots the same call by Joseph Goebbels and his government (change the word 'the Jew' for 'Islam'). Your trying to take away the humanity of the people you wish to kill, also was a tool used by Goebbels and Co.

Killing _people_ may be an "... objective factual reality." that applies to all sides. And what do you have? Unending killing in the name of your god. Does not your books in the bible call for "an eye for an eye"? The result of course is a totally blind world.

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There you go again, playing the victim. "Argumentum ad hominem" means in Latin, argument to the man, or argument against the man. My posts here have been directed against your long-winded arguments and their circular fallacies. In your response you wrote, "... This ain't about ancient Hebrew history, nor is it about deviations from orthodox Christian doctrine & practice. ..." trying to defend actions by followers of the bible. Is it not reasonable that a follower of Islam can use these actions and calls to defend themselves against you and the action you call for?

One must recognize that in every confrontation, both side will have valid complaints and issues. Solving issues and problems require people to respect each other and work together to find common ground.

"... Where the jury is rational, facts trump emotional arguments."

The facts are you cannot kill every one who does not agree with you.
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While you were quoting statements of people, why not choose a true statement made by a person recently?

"If Christ were on earth today, undoubtedly he would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over ..."

Just out of curiosity, "if Christ were on earth today, would you listen to him and his messages (Beatitudes)?"

Or would Jesus be listed among the dirty hippy liberal leftists socialists that you see as fools, traitors, and the enemy?

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Ema Nymton said...

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Ben,

You clearly do not know right from wrong. When you write, "... we need to exterminate Islam in order to make and secure peace. You can't have lambs and lions, a choice must be made.

There are three possibilities:
1. nuke them off the face of the earth
2. emancipate as many as possible from slavery to Allah and kill the recalcitrant remainder
3. suffer continued attacks until we are finally conquered and subjugated. ..." You have crossed the line.

Just how do you intend to carry out your call to kill the followers of Islam who live in USA? These men, women and children may be citizens of USA. Or do you think USA should follow examples of earlier western countries circa 1933-1945 that first took away the citizenship of the minorities that they targeted for killing?

PackSmack

Maybe you should really take back your blog. Mass murder is not an American value.

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RightHooks said...

Ema,

and mass murder is exactly what Islam teaches, has been guilty of for 1300 years, and what they desire to continue to do...to US. (See American Hiroshima).

Which is exactly why Ben's posts are welcome and this blog will continue as is.

As for Muslims in this country, perhaps they should change teams as their fellow-Muslim's behavior brings heat and scorn down on their heads...this country wasn't built on the principles of Islam so there is no reason that a subversive Muslim should feel 'comfortable' believing and practicing a murderous lie while here...we will stand up against it, get it outlawed in court as treasonous and take it from there? Don't like it? Move.

Ema Nymton said...

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So why do you hate America so much?

So because someone else advocate mass murder, it it ok with you to kill people of USA in USA?

You are willing to allow killing citizen of USA?! I guess the the haters have won. Ben congratulations.

Well good luck. Hate enough and it will not matter who is right or wrong. Kill them all and let god sort it out.

Shame on you PackSmack. Shame on you.

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